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When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:21 pm

GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:27 pm

Sounds like you are getting desperate to be rescued from Turkey :lol:

You can stew until we find the perfect solution, to avoid ever again, putting up with the problems you have made us suffer with in the past.
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:36 pm

Oracle wrote:Sounds like you are getting desperate to be rescued from Turkey :lol:

You can stew until we find the perfect solution, to avoid ever again, putting up with the problems you have made us suffer with in the past.


He said "balls" dear, I don't believe that implies to you. :wink:
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Re: When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby wallace » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:52 pm

Viewpoint wrote:GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.


Turkey will collapse and will open up the ports on the end....patience my friend :lol: :lol: Swear at the Turkish military?? Why should we? We have seen the barbaric results years ago..pulling the trigger is easy.....discuss your way out of it in a deasant way is another story....no no.....we try to keep it civilised.......if we could only say the same about the Turks ah :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:55 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
Oracle wrote:Sounds like you are getting desperate to be rescued from Turkey :lol:

You can stew until we find the perfect solution, to avoid ever again, putting up with the problems you have made us suffer with in the past.


He said "balls" dear, I don't believe that implies to you. :wink:


I can fire a few ping-pongs at him if that's what he's asking for :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:59 pm

Oracle wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Oracle wrote:Sounds like you are getting desperate to be rescued from Turkey :lol:

You can stew until we find the perfect solution, to avoid ever again, putting up with the problems you have made us suffer with in the past.


He said "balls" dear, I don't believe that implies to you. :wink:


I can fire a few ping-pongs at him if that's what he's asking for :lol:


So you have got some balls after all huh? Are they the plastic type or the ladies preffered silicone type? :lol:

Does it not hurt when you "fire" them?
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Re: When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby Kifeas » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:06 am

Viewpoint wrote:GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.


VP, let me once more re-explain to you what I have done so many times in the past. We have changed our mind and we will not veto Turkey. We will let her open and negotiate as many accession chapters as possible, and allow a good number of them to be completed, but without closing them. This means that after Turkey had done so much and most of the work towards its accession; we will freeze the closing of all the chapters and let her wait indefinitely at the door of the EU. In this way, Turkey will be faced with a very strong and critical dilemma. Should it give up and abandon the EU path as non feasible, after having done almost all the work needed towards accession; or should it take that extra step to come into its senses in relation to Cyprus, and make in this way full use of all the work and the effort that was spend towards accession.
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Re: When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby doesntmatter » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:10 am

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.


VP, let me once more re-explain to you what I have done so many times in the past. We have changed our mind and we will not veto Turkey. We will let her open and negotiate as many accession chapters as possible, and allow a good number of them to be completed, but without closing them. This means that after Turkey had done so much and most of the work towards its accession; we will freeze the closing of all the chapters and let her wait indefinitely at the door of the EU. In this way, Turkey will be faced with a very strong and critical dilemma. Should it give up and abandon the EU path as non feasible, after having done almost all the work needed towards accession; or should it take that extra step to come into its senses in relation to Cyprus, and make in this way full use of all the work and the effort that was spend towards accession.


Is this "great" idea yours or that of your leaders?
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Re: When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby Kifeas » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:22 am

doesntmatter wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.


VP, let me once more re-explain to you what I have done so many times in the past. We have changed our mind and we will not veto Turkey. We will let her open and negotiate as many accession chapters as possible, and allow a good number of them to be completed, but without closing them. This means that after Turkey had done so much and most of the work towards its accession; we will freeze the closing of all the chapters and let her wait indefinitely at the door of the EU. In this way, Turkey will be faced with a very strong and critical dilemma. Should it give up and abandon the EU path as non feasible, after having done almost all the work needed towards accession; or should it take that extra step to come into its senses in relation to Cyprus, and make in this way full use of all the work and the effort that was spend towards accession.


Is this "great" idea yours or that of your leaders?


Instead of asking me if this idea is mine or my leaders, see what you can do as TCs to help your motherland get over this difficult situation it is confronted with, by ending behaving like spoiled and selfish children wanting to put the capricious and illegitimate “interests” of 100 thousand of you, above the real interests of a country of 100 million people.
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Re: When will the GCs have the balls to take action?

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:24 am

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:GCs are great at making threats and acting like the top dog but they never actually carry out their threats, why don't the veto Turkey or come out and swear at the Turkish military or make statements about the doom and gloom of how Turkey is going to collapse? GCs are all talk and no balls, really pathetic when you think about it, no one has come to the rescue of the GCs do they ever try to understand why? even the EU they out al their hopes on a magical EU solution 4 years and puff nothing zilch they didnt even get the ports opening up.


VP, let me once more re-explain to you what I have done so many times in the past. We have changed our mind and we will not veto Turkey. We will let her open and negotiate as many accession chapters as possible, and allow a good number of them to be completed, but without closing them. This means that after Turkey had done so much and most of the work towards its accession; we will freeze the closing of all the chapters and let her wait indefinitely at the door of the EU. In this way, Turkey will be faced with a very strong and critical dilemma. Should it give up and abandon the EU path as non feasible, after having done almost all the work needed towards accession; or should it take that extra step to come into its senses in relation to Cyprus, and make in this way full use of all the work and the effort that was spend towards accession.


Good idea, they will be so far advanced they may even tell the EU to go to helll or accept what will be the end result a special partnership to which you will have no say. Your leverage is not as strong as you priginally thought I have heard Erdoğan say many times we will just rename the EU criteria as the Ankara Criteria and go on our merry way.
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