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Tassos Papadopoulos 1934 - 2008

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:41 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Still no response Kikapu?


By New Year's Day, the latest.!

You don't like my responses to you anyway, so I don't know why you are so eager to get some more, but you will get them soon.!


You put in more effort than the GCs and support them 100%, I test my viewpoint against your GC mindset and try to understand if I am right in believing there will never be a solution as the chasm is to wide, neither side willing to bridge it, leaving us with only one solution agreed division or a continuation of the unagreed division we have today, you continue to prove me right time and time again which I would like to thank you for.
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Postby DT. » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Still no response Kikapu?


By New Year's Day, the latest.!

You don't like my responses to you anyway, so I don't know why you are so eager to get some more, but you will get them soon.!


You put in more effort than the GCs and support them 100%, I test my viewpoint against your GC mindset and try to understand if I am right in believing there will never be a solution as the chasm is to wide, neither side willing to bridge it, leaving us with only one solution agreed division or a continuation of the unagreed division we have today, you continue to prove me right time and time again which I would like to thank you for.


You're now boasting about your chasm with other TC's?
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 31, 2008 10:56 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Still no response Kikapu?


By New Year's Day, the latest.!

You don't like my responses to you anyway, so I don't know why you are so eager to get some more, but you will get them soon.!


You put in more effort than the GCs and support them 100%, I test my viewpoint against your GC mindset and try to understand if I am right in believing there will never be a solution as the chasm is to wide, neither side willing to bridge it, leaving us with only one solution agreed division or a continuation of the unagreed division we have today, you continue to prove me right time and time again which I would like to thank you for.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

The best dribble I have heard for long time.! :lol:

Admit it VP, that you look in the mirror every chance you get and speak out loud to yourself saying "you're the best damn person in the world who knows what is best for Cyprus and don't let anyone tell you otherwise".! :lol:

I got it.! :lol:

Perhaps only Zan should answer all your posts from now on, so that you can hear yourself in STEREO.!! :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:00 am

And He was not even Born in Cyprus !!!
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:05 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Still no response Kikapu?


By New Year's Day, the latest.!

You don't like my responses to you anyway, so I don't know why you are so eager to get some more, but you will get them soon.!


You put in more effort than the GCs and support them 100%, I test my viewpoint against your GC mindset and try to understand if I am right in believing there will never be a solution as the chasm is to wide, neither side willing to bridge it, leaving us with only one solution agreed division or a continuation of the unagreed division we have today, you continue to prove me right time and time again which I would like to thank you for.


You're now boasting about your chasm with other TC's?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

VP ONLY has a chasm with anyone who supports Democracy, Human Rights and International Law.! :lol:

VP would have a chasm with himself if he ever were to support the above principles.! :lol:

He gets along just fine with all the Morally Corrupted however.! :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Wed Dec 31, 2008 12:44 pm

miltiades wrote:And He was not even Born in Cyprus !!!


Were your kids and born in Cyprus Miltiades?

What about your grandchildren, if you have any, were they born in Cyprus?
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Postby doesntmatter » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:11 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Still no response Kikapu?


By New Year's Day, the latest.!

You don't like my responses to you anyway, so I don't know why you are so eager to get some more, but you will get them soon.!


You put in more effort than the GCs and support them 100%, I test my viewpoint against your GC mindset and try to understand if I am right in believing there will never be a solution as the chasm is to wide, neither side willing to bridge it, leaving us with only one solution agreed division or a continuation of the unagreed division we have today, you continue to prove me right time and time again which I would like to thank you for.


Don't push him VP, he's probably not recieved the email containing the answer yet.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 31, 2008 1:35 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
miltiades wrote:And He was not even Born in Cyprus !!!


Were your kids and born in Cyprus Miltiades?

What about your grandchildren, if you have any, were they born in Cyprus?

So that you understand me here are are the facts.
I was born in Cyprus just as my parents grandparents and beyond , we call our selves Greek Cypriots , but all of my ancestors were first and foremost CYPRIOTS .
My two children were born in the UK , their mother being English they are therefore half Cypriots and half English.
My grandchildren were born in Cyprus and are therefore Cypriots. Note that none of us consider any other nation apart from Cyprus , and in the case of my two English born children England , as being our motherlands.

Turkey as well as Greece are related nations but ARE NOT THE MOTHERLANDS OF THE CYPRIOT PEOPLE .
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Postby doesntmatter » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:07 pm

miltiades wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
miltiades wrote:And He was not even Born in Cyprus !!!


Were your kids and born in Cyprus Miltiades?

What about your grandchildren, if you have any, were they born in Cyprus?

So that you understand me here are are the facts.
I was born in Cyprus just as my parents grandparents and beyond , we call our selves Greek Cypriots , but all of my ancestors were first and foremost CYPRIOTS .



Hmmmm....did you think of yourself as a "Cypriot" when you supported the enosis dream?

My two children were born in the UK , their mother being English they are therefore half Cypriots and half English.
My grandchildren were born in Cyprus and are therefore Cypriots. Note that none of us consider any other nation apart from Cyprus , and in the case of my two English born children England , as being our motherlands.


So your children and grandchildren who were all BORN in the UK and only have ONE "Cypriot" parent can be "Half Cypriots" but VP whose parents probably are both Turkish Cypriots you class as a "foreigner" just because he was born, same as your kids and grandchildren, in the UK.

You even call me a "foreigner" even though both my parents are Turkish Cypriots as was their ancestors and I was born in Cyprus.

Milti, you are not calling us "foreigners" because you believe we are, you are doing it because you want to insult but you are not in a position to realise that you insult everyone who was born outside of Cyprus. You are even insulting yourself without even realising it. You must have also been a "foreigner" back in the 50/60s because you were definitely not a "Cypriot" but a Greek when you supported enosis and saw Greece as your motherland.

You even insult TPaps who was buried cowered in the Greek flag as well as the "Cypriot flag".

Maybe you should cut down on the wine, you never know, it might help you to see what a nincompoop you are making out of yourself.



Turkey as well as Greece are related nations but ARE NOT THE MOTHERLANDS OF THE CYPRIOT PEOPLE .


Why don't you then lobby to remove the Greek flag and the Greek national anthem in South Greek Cyprus? If you make a start on that then I'll believe you are a "true Cypriot" but until then, you are just another Greek Cypriot who does the talk but refuses to do the walk for obvious reasons.
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Postby miltiades » Wed Dec 31, 2008 2:53 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
miltiades wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
miltiades wrote:And He was not even Born in Cyprus !!!


Were your kids and born in Cyprus Miltiades?

What about your grandchildren, if you have any, were they born in Cyprus?

So that you understand me here are are the facts.
I was born in Cyprus just as my parents grandparents and beyond , we call our selves Greek Cypriots , but all of my ancestors were first and foremost CYPRIOTS .



Hmmmm....did you think of yourself as a "Cypriot" when you supported the enosis dream?

My two children were born in the UK , their mother being English they are therefore half Cypriots and half English.
My grandchildren were born in Cyprus and are therefore Cypriots. Note that none of us consider any other nation apart from Cyprus , and in the case of my two English born children England , as being our motherlands.


So your children and grandchildren who were all BORN in the UK and only have ONE "Cypriot" parent can be "Half Cypriots" but VP whose parents probably are both Turkish Cypriots you class as a "foreigner" just because he was born, same as your kids and grandchildren, in the UK.

You even call me a "foreigner" even though both my parents are Turkish Cypriots as was their ancestors and I was born in Cyprus.

Milti, you are not calling us "foreigners" because you believe we are, you are doing it because you want to insult but you are not in a position to realise that you insult everyone who was born outside of Cyprus. You are even insulting yourself without even realising it. You must have also been a "foreigner" back in the 50/60s because you were definitely not a "Cypriot" but a Greek when you supported enosis and saw Greece as your motherland.

You even insult TPaps who was buried cowered in the Greek flag as well as the "Cypriot flag".

Maybe you should cut down on the wine, you never know, it might help you to see what a nincompoop you are making out of yourself.



Turkey as well as Greece are related nations but ARE NOT THE MOTHERLANDS OF THE CYPRIOT PEOPLE .


Why don't you then lobby to remove the Greek flag and the Greek national anthem in South Greek Cyprus? If you make a start on that then I'll believe you are a "true Cypriot" but until then, you are just another Greek Cypriot who does the talk but refuses to do the walk for obvious reasons.

Firstly let me again refer you to the answer I gave in my last post. Both of my grandchildren were born in Cyprus.
Let me now for the umpteenth time clarify my position regarding ENOSIS.
Back in the 50s the overwhelming number of Cypriots supported ENOSIS , my self included. There was NOTHING Extraordinary about 80 % of the people of Cyprus wanting to determine the course of their nation. Back then Cyprus was under the British and not an independent nation. As time went on the majority of the Cypriots people rejected ENOSIS , my self included and embraced Cyprus as their motherland an independent nation recognized world wide.

I detest the fact that the Greek national anthem is used in Cyprus just as I detest the the fact that the flag of Greece as well as Turkey's are hoisted on our buildings etc.
May I finish by once again stating clearly that the problems and conflicts of Cyprus are a direct result of the two foreign "motherlands " interfering and influencing the Cypriot people .
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