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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:12 pm

Bananiot wrote:Simitis was instrumental, but in Cyprus we had real statemen then. Klerides and Vasiliou.

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Postby wallace » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:24 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.


Thank you for your honesty Bananiot but one thing I have to correct you on.

TP did not allow "a real chance to be lost", he "forced" it on to the GCs with [real] tears running down his cheeks live on TV right after he tricked the EU.


He didn't trick nobody you plonker.....everybody knew his political standing....in that matter he was tricked in borgerstock were they tried to screw the Cypriot people ones more by throwing more demands on the table......you should thank him....he saved Turkey=Fascist state a coup which would have taken place if the AP would have come through! :D :D
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:24 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Simitis was instrumental, but in Cyprus we had real statemen then. Klerides and Vasiliou.

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The real three stooges would have done a better job than TPapadopoulos had you given them a chance. They made people laugh and love them, TP only managed to make people laugh at him and distance themselves form him and you GCs living you isolated even within the EU club you joined.

Nice going. :wink:
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Postby Cem » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:27 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:May he go to hell for the sins he has committed or heaven if he was indeed sinless. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

May the little meat dangling between VP’s legs drop from gangrene and feed a starving mongrel…


This is more like how yourself have been dangling my friend !
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:32 pm

wallace wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.


Thank you for your honesty Bananiot but one thing I have to correct you on.

TP did not allow "a real chance to be lost", he "forced" it on to the GCs with [real] tears running down his cheeks live on TV right after he tricked the EU.


He didn't trick nobody you plonker.....everybody knew his political standing....in that matter he was tricked in borgerstock were they tried to screw the Cypriot people ones more by throwing more demands on the table......you should thank him....he saved Turkey=Fascist state a coup which would have taken place if the AP would have come through! :D :D


Yes wallace, I am thankful, if it wasn't for his crocodile tears the TRNC would be no more today and we TCs would have been forced to learn Greek and adjust to live in a Greek state.

Your problem is that he made a real "plonker" out of you GCs, his actions saved my country and the TRNC still stands but you have lost the support and sympathy of your friends who stood by you all these years. Thank you TPapadopoulos.
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Postby wallace » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:36 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
wallace wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.


Thank you for your honesty Bananiot but one thing I have to correct you on.

TP did not allow "a real chance to be lost", he "forced" it on to the GCs with [real] tears running down his cheeks live on TV right after he tricked the EU.


He didn't trick nobody you plonker.....everybody knew his political standing....in that matter he was tricked in borgerstock were they tried to screw the Cypriot people ones more by throwing more demands on the table......you should thank him....he saved Turkey=Fascist state a coup which would have taken place if the AP would have come through! :D :D


Yes wallace, I am thankful, if it wasn't for his crocodile tears the TRNC would be no more today and we TCs would have been forced to learn Greek and adjust to live in a Greek state.

Your problem is that he made a real "plonker" out of you GCs, his actions saved my country and the TRNC still stands but you have lost the support and sympathy of your friends who stood by you all these years. Thank you TPapadopoulos.


The TRNC still stands???? Where does it stand? In Turkey=Fascist state because that's the only country that recognises it :roll: Could you also please tell me from who we lost support? Your sarcasme doesn't work.......so while you are at it.....please also tell me from who your so called TRNC has support :D :D :D
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:44 pm

doesntmatter wrote:Yes wallace, I am thankful, if it wasn't for his crocodile tears the TRNC would be no more today and we TCs would have been forced to learn Greek and adjust to live in a Greek state.

Your problem is that he made a real "plonker" out of you GCs, his actions saved my country and the TRNC still stands but you have lost the support and sympathy of your friends who stood by you all these years. Thank you TPapadopoulos.

It goes to show how full of shit you are... the only reason you hate him yet here pretend he did you a favor, is because he destroyed your treasonous little Turkish plans. :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:45 pm

Thank God the Greek Cypriots voted no.

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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:Yes wallace, I am thankful, if it wasn't for his crocodile tears the TRNC would be no more today and we TCs would have been forced to learn Greek and adjust to live in a Greek state.

Your problem is that he made a real "plonker" out of you GCs, his actions saved my country and the TRNC still stands but you have lost the support and sympathy of your friends who stood by you all these years. Thank you TPapadopoulos.

It goes to show how full of shit you are... the only reason you hate him yet here pretend he did you a favor, is because he destroyed your treasonous little Turkish plans. :lol:


You need to look up the meaning of "sarcasm" GR and also think about why he lost his second term in office.

But in a sad way, sad for you GCs, yes, he did do us a favour in convincing you GCs to vote "NO". So for that, I should really have said, thank you TPapadopoulos and thank you Greek Cypriots for your resounding "NO". Sorry I left you out in my lasy message.
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:02 pm

He was duly thanked by Denkatsh who was grateful to him but he let down the true Cypriots. He was too small for the circumstances.
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