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Tassos Papadopoulos 1934 - 2008

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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:59 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:May he go to hell for the sins he has committed or heaven if he was indeed sinless. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

May the little meat dangling between VP’s legs drop from gangrene and feed a starving mongrel…


Wishing the same to others that happened to you is very nasty GR.

Or are you the starving mongrel? :wink: :lol:
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:03 pm

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halil wrote:A very political funeral
By Stefanos Evripidou

THOSE WHO thought the funeral of former President Tassos Papadopoulos would honour the man’s more than half a century contribution to Cypriot politics would be wrong.

The entire service was marked by one specific moment in Papadopoulos’ political life: his 2004 rejection of the Annan plan.

Before reaching the gargantuan Saint Sophia Church in Strovolos, one could already get a sense of the mood at the single-themed ceremony. Hanging from one of the bell towers was a 20-metre banner which simply read, “OXI” (NO).

The message was clear.

That was just one of 4-5 gigantic banners hanging from the church, but in any case the "OXI" movement had saved the state and constitution of Cyprus so it was definitely a very important moment in history for which we are grateful to all that supported it including TP.


Some live to fight another day, some depart before they get a chance to see the side effects of their actions. TPapadopoulos departed before he got his dream wish but at least he lived long enough to witness the side effects of his "OXI" action.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:05 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:May he go to hell for the sins he has committed or heaven if he was indeed sinless. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

May the little meat dangling between VP’s legs drop from gangrene and feed a starving mongrel…

Wishing the same to others that happened to you is very nasty GR.

Or are you the starving mongrel? :wink: :lol:

May your firstborn grandchild marry that of Nicos Samson poisoning your future bloodlines with that of a gavur coupist murderer…
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:11 pm

Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:13 pm

Get Real! wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:May he go to hell for the sins he has committed or heaven if he was indeed sinless. Good riddens to bad rubbish.

May the little meat dangling between VP’s legs drop from gangrene and feed a starving mongrel…

Wishing the same to others that happened to you is very nasty GR.

Or are you the starving mongrel? :wink: :lol:

May your firstborn grandchild marry that of Nicos Samson poisoning your future bloodlines with that of a gavur coupist murderer…


Why Nicos Sampson, why not TPapadopoulos or even Makarios? :?
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Postby doesntmatter » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:20 pm

Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.


Thank you for your honesty Bananiot but one thing I have to correct you on.

TP did not allow "a real chance to be lost", he "forced" it on to the GCs with [real] tears running down his cheeks live on TV right after he tricked the EU.
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Postby DT. » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:35 pm

Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos will be judged by history, as they say. He played a terrible game in 2003 and he lost, causing serious damage to Cyprus. He thought that he could accept the UN proposals, not because he liked them, but because he was sure the Turks were playing a communications game, when all the signals from Turkey were pointing to a serious change of policy. He thought that Denktash will do the normal thing and walk away from the negotiations and we would surface unscathed, as it happened on numerous occasions previously.

Then, the unthinkable for Papadopoulos happened. Turkey sacrificed Denktash and went along with the UN. Papadopoulos was left stranded. In his confusion he let Turkey know of his real intentions, when he invited Serdar to his home to discuss postponement of the referendum. Denktash, who like Papadopoulos was also a strong opponent of the Plan, immediately changed line and asked his supporters to vote at will. Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

Our accession to the EU has nothing to do with Papadopoulos. Klerides, Simitis and Vassiliou are the people we should thank, if indeed we want to express gratitude to anyone for our entry into the exclusive club. Those who believe that all it took Simitis and Greece to convince the EU to accept us with our problem unsolved, please climb down from the clouds (or just stop kidding yourselves).

Papadopoulos is now dead but his legasy will linger on, long after this island is divided, for he allowed a real chance to be lost, or as Simitis said, he allowed the train of history to pass by, without stopping.

I have no sympathy for his policies, recent ones and old ones.


So you believe that CLerides and Vassiliou were much stronger factors in us joining the EU than Greece?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:37 pm

The only ones truly responsible for the terrible position Cyprus finds itself in, are the Turks and their supporters...

All else are excuses!
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:40 pm

Bananiot wrote:Papadopoulos was defeated convincingly and his subsequent actions led to the stripping of Cyprus of most of her friends, even the traditional ones.

That's ok you can have those "friends" all for yourself because we opted for the preservation of our glorious state and constitution so...

May you grow a brain that works. :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:08 pm

Simitis was instrumental, but in Cyprus we had real statemen then. Klerides and Vasiliou.
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