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[MrH]

Get Real wrote:

MrH wrote:
Does Isolation on "TCs" ONLY Mean Recognition?

I used to think you know nothing about Cyprus but now I'm convinced your command of English is just as bad...

What is this nonsense???

Sorry mate, sometime I get ahead of myself.

What I meant to say is, by only isolating the Turkish Cypriots: meaning Turkish Cypriot citizens of Northern Cyprus, and not insisting/ or demanding, via the UN or the EU, in imposing an embargo on the Republic of Turkey for their so-called "Occupation" of Northern Cyprus, the mere isolation of ONLY the Turkish Cypriots has recognised a clear, indirect, distinction between Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots and the people of Turkey!

Thus, whether it was intentional or not, our predicament is internationally viewed as an isolation of a people/nation and not a community of Cyprus. Get my drift?

If you have a Problem with TURKEY's actions on NORTHERN CYPRUS, then why is the Republic of Turkey not being punished, but the Turkish Cypriots ONLY?

Answer that my wonderful friend Mr Get Real of Australia, Cyprus and possibly the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?

[Oracle]

Congratulations on your much desired "Recognition" of such a great Achievement as contributing nothing .....

[Kikapu]

DT:

Why is the north not illegally occupied?

Because we, Turkish Cypriots, do not view it as an "Occupation", but more as an invitation.

How can you invite a stranger to someone else's house that does not belong to you. When you do that, both you and the stranger become illegal occupiers of someone else's house. If you do not agree with this, then let me know where you live and I'll come over with some "muscles" to camp out in your living room, rent free of course, while you get kicked out, and lets see if you will like it. You cannot invite others to a place that does not belong to you, and if you do it by force, then you then become illegal occupiers. Very simple really.

[Viewpoint]

DT:

Why is the north not illegally occupied?

Because we, Turkish Cypriots, do not view it as an "Occupation", but more as an invitation.

How can you invite a stranger to someone else's house that does not belong to you. When you do that, both you and the stranger become illegal occupiers of someone else's house. If you do not agree with this, then let me know where you live and I'll come over with some "muscles" to camp out in your living room, rent free of course, while you get kicked out, and lets see if you will like it. You cannot invite others to a place that does not belong to you, and if you do it by force, then you then become illegal occupiers. Very simple really.

What if we are joint owners?

[DT.]

DT:

Why is the north not illegally occupied?

Because we, Turkish Cypriots, do not view it as an "Occupation", but more as an invitation.

It is truly the "Doing" of Greek Cypriot persistence, in our eyes to not see the realities - and here it is, I'll be very brief.

WE, TCs, say that Cyprus is an Island with TWO EQUAL PARTNER Peoples, while the GCs believe that we should remain as a Protected Minority under a Majority GC lead government.

That's Just about it.

A bit like if I chose to see the Plague as the sniffles?

The question I asked was why do you claim the Turkish occupation is NOT illegal. You're meant to give me a response on why it is LEGAL, not what you see it as.

I have no issues if you see the occupation as an invite, a party or even a wake. I would like to know why you do not see it as illegal though.

Well?

[Jerry]

WE, TCs, say that Cyprus is an Island with TWO EQUAL PARTNER Peoples, while the GCs believe that we should remain as a Protected Minority under a Majority GC lead government.

That's Just about it.

Your claim to be one of "TWO EQUAL PARTNER Peoples" is based on the the Zurich Agreement I suppose. An "agreement" that was forced on the GCs by the retreating colonial power. You are a minority but you see yourselves as a nation of very special supermen who deserve and are entitled to a status that no other democracy in the world confers on its citizens.

If you are so bloody special how come you can't run your economy without being propped up by Turkey?

PS Please don't bore me with "isolation" as an answer.

[MrH]

Kikapu,

You said:

How can you invite a stranger

"Stranger", surely the call of Turkey in 1974 by the Turkish Cypriots under such bloody conditions was not in contravention of Article IV of the 1960 Treaty? Surely Turkey's one of the three guarantor powers of Cyprus if such a call is desperately needed by either the Greek or Turkish Cypriot peoples of Cyprus? Surely Turkey was right to intervene, but did not leave because of Turkish Cypriot concerns, because of a serious lack of confident in the federal Republic, because we had suddenly realised that a Two Federated State of Cyprus would best guarantee or security requirements, Surely!

We even declared ourselves as the Turkish "Federated" State of Cyprus from 1975 to 1983 in the hope of some kind of reconciliation - but that obviously failed, which is why we felt we had no other choice but to move forward and cement partition as a Republic State.

If you, the Greek Cypriots, can be handed over the ROC after such a bloody affair in 1974, unopposed, then why can't we live under our own republic state after so many years of failed UN peace plans.

Think about that!

[Viewpoint]

WE, TCs, say that Cyprus is an Island with TWO EQUAL PARTNER Peoples, while the GCs believe that we should remain as a Protected Minority under a Majority GC lead government.

That's Just about it.

Your claim to be one of "TWO EQUAL PARTNER Peoples" is based on the the Zurich Agreement I suppose. An "agreement" that was forced on the GCs by the retreating colonial power. You are a minority but you see yourselves as a nation of very special supermen who deserve and are entitled to a status that no other democracy in the world confers on its citizens.

If you are so bloody special how come you can't run your economy without being propped up by Turkey?

PS Please don't bore me with "isolation" as an answer.

You place a knife in my back and then you say you dont want to know about it and then you have the nerve to say why are you bleeding all the place and accepting help from a nurse.

[zan]

DT:

Why is the north not illegally occupied?

Because we, Turkish Cypriots, do not view it as an "Occupation", but more as an invitation.

How can you invite a stranger to someone else's house that does not belong to you. When you do that, both you and the stranger become illegal occupiers of someone else's house. If you do not agree with this, then let me know where you live and I'll come over with some "muscles" to camp out in your living room, rent free of course, while you get kicked out, and lets see if you will like it. You cannot invite others to a place that does not belong to you, and if you do it by force, then you then become illegal occupiers. Very simple really.

What if we are joint owners?

They invite their little friends over for some tea and murder (Greece) who turns on them and starts killing their brothers, we then invite our big friend over who not only stops the killing of their brothers but the killing of us and they tell the world it was their house to start with...Kikapu is just one mixed up kid who thinks he is Greek.......He has the "RoC".......Keep it Kiks....

[Viewpoint]

DT:

Why is the north not illegally occupied?

Because we, Turkish Cypriots, do not view it as an "Occupation", but more as an invitation.

How can you invite a stranger to someone else's house that does not belong to you. When you do that, both you and the stranger become illegal occupiers of someone else's house. If you do not agree with this, then let me know where you live and I'll come over with some "muscles" to camp out in your living room, rent free of course, while you get kicked out, and lets see if you will like it. You cannot invite others to a place that does not belong to you, and if you do it by force, then you then become illegal occupiers. Very simple really.

What if we are joint owners?

They invite their little friends over for some tea and murder (Greece) who turns on them and starts killing their brothers, we then invite our big friend over who not only stops the killing of their brothers but the killing of us and they tell the world it was their house to start with...Kikapu is just one mixed up kid who thinks he is Greek.......He has the "RoC".......Keep it Kiks....

These people are unbelievable and very insincere.