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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Kifeas » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Is this Talat man for real, or has he lost the plot completely?

He went to Brussels pretending to be a “president” of a (non-EU member) separate “state” in Cyprus, the “TRNC,” one that was (illegally) “established” on the soil of another (EU member) state, which he does not recognize –set aside its EU membership- and said to Barroso, the president of the EU Commission that: (a.) the TCs must have “equal treatment” and separate participation in the EU parliament by taking 2 out of the 6 seats allocated to the RoC, and (b.) that the Turkish Cypriots “do not want the mediation of the EU which had lost neutrality due to the memberships of the Greek Cypriot administration and Greece…”

Such a defective logic and such a ridiculous way of behaving, I have never seen in my life!

Either the man does not recognize the existence of the EU and /or Cyprus’s membership to it, due to the fact that he does not recognize the existence of the RoC (he only recognizes a “GC administration” in the south,) in which case the question is: on what platform and for what reason has he visited Brussels and met with Barroso in the first place; or he does indeed recognize both the EU and the RoC, as well as its (RoC) membership in it (EU,) in which case the question becomes: on what platform has he asked Barroso to grand to a separate (non EU member) “state,” the “TRNC,” two (2) out of the six (6) seats in the EU parliament that were allocated to another (EU member) state, the RoC.

Honestly, it is unbelievably absurd!

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244


You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.


VP, on what basis, what grounds, do you want two seats in the EU parliament?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:17 am

Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Is this Talat man for real, or has he lost the plot completely?

He went to Brussels pretending to be a “president” of a (non-EU member) separate “state” in Cyprus, the “TRNC,” one that was (illegally) “established” on the soil of another (EU member) state, which he does not recognize –set aside its EU membership- and said to Barroso, the president of the EU Commission that: (a.) the TCs must have “equal treatment” and separate participation in the EU parliament by taking 2 out of the 6 seats allocated to the RoC, and (b.) that the Turkish Cypriots “do not want the mediation of the EU which had lost neutrality due to the memberships of the Greek Cypriot administration and Greece…”

Such a defective logic and such a ridiculous way of behaving, I have never seen in my life!

Either the man does not recognize the existence of the EU and /or Cyprus’s membership to it, due to the fact that he does not recognize the existence of the RoC (he only recognizes a “GC administration” in the south,) in which case the question is: on what platform and for what reason has he visited Brussels and met with Barroso in the first place; or he does indeed recognize both the EU and the RoC, as well as its (RoC) membership in it (EU,) in which case the question becomes: on what platform has he asked Barroso to grand to a separate (non EU member) “state,” the “TRNC,” two (2) out of the six (6) seats in the EU parliament that were allocated to another (EU member) state, the RoC.

Honestly, it is unbelievably absurd!

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244


You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.


VP, on what basis, what grounds, do you want two seats in the EU parliament?


As the TC community.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:20 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:21 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Is this Talat man for real, or has he lost the plot completely?

He went to Brussels pretending to be a “president” of a (non-EU member) separate “state” in Cyprus, the “TRNC,” one that was (illegally) “established” on the soil of another (EU member) state, which he does not recognize –set aside its EU membership- and said to Barroso, the president of the EU Commission that: (a.) the TCs must have “equal treatment” and separate participation in the EU parliament by taking 2 out of the 6 seats allocated to the RoC, and (b.) that the Turkish Cypriots “do not want the mediation of the EU which had lost neutrality due to the memberships of the Greek Cypriot administration and Greece…”

Such a defective logic and such a ridiculous way of behaving, I have never seen in my life!

Either the man does not recognize the existence of the EU and /or Cyprus’s membership to it, due to the fact that he does not recognize the existence of the RoC (he only recognizes a “GC administration” in the south,) in which case the question is: on what platform and for what reason has he visited Brussels and met with Barroso in the first place; or he does indeed recognize both the EU and the RoC, as well as its (RoC) membership in it (EU,) in which case the question becomes: on what platform has he asked Barroso to grand to a separate (non EU member) “state,” the “TRNC,” two (2) out of the six (6) seats in the EU parliament that were allocated to another (EU member) state, the RoC.

Honestly, it is unbelievably absurd!

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/worl ... sp?gid=244


You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.


VP, on what basis, what grounds, do you want two seats in the EU parliament?


As the TC community.


Don't you say you are not a community but a separate people that forms a separate nation-state, i.e. the people of the "TRNC?" Does a TC community exist, and where its existence is based on?
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.


That is absolute rubbish mate......We have always asked for our rights as equals in Cyprus....We are not asking for a seat as representatives of the "RoC" but ourselves......We have no intention of sitting behind you but side by side!!!
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:29 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.


That is absolute rubbish mate......We have always asked for our rights as equals in Cyprus....We are not asking for a seat as representatives of the "RoC" but ourselves......We have no intention of sitting behind you but side by side!!!


But you are not members of the EU! Only the RoC is a member of the EU, which you do not recognise!
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:35 am

It seems that from now on, the replies of Zan and VP are going to be coming too slow, as they will have to wait until they get more update consultations from their bosses tomorrow. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby zan » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:35 am

Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.


That is absolute rubbish mate......We have always asked for our rights as equals in Cyprus....We are not asking for a seat as representatives of the "RoC" but ourselves......We have no intention of sitting behind you but side by side!!!


But you are not members of the EU! Only the RoC is a member of the EU, which you do not recognise!


Absolutely......So that means you have no rights to the TRNC.......You cannot have it both ways.... :roll:

I really am tired now......Night night all....
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Postby Kifeas » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:38 am

zan wrote:
Kifeas wrote:
zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.


That is absolute rubbish mate......We have always asked for our rights as equals in Cyprus....We are not asking for a seat as representatives of the "RoC" but ourselves......We have no intention of sitting behind you but side by side!!!


But you are not members of the EU! Only the RoC is a member of the EU, which you do not recognise!


Absolutely......So that means you have no rights to the TRNC.......You cannot have it both ways.... :roll:

I really am tired now......Night night all....


Oh I see, you are tired now!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

As soon you get stuck, you run away.

Absolutely what?
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Dec 11, 2008 1:42 am

zan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You are the one out of touch why shouldnt he ask to be treated equally with GCs? taking the 2 seats is a way of allowing us a voice and not just GC, continue with the current set up means they only hear one side of the story, that makes them biased.

The EU Commission is not a court.

Hes asking for equality of the 2 communities why is that so difficult to understand you obviously feel threatened.

I'd say confused... on the one hand he goes on about the RoC being foul and thus null & void, but on the other he wants to take advantage of RoC privileges to air his opinion!

This on/off button to RoC “validity” is getting ridiculous. Perhaps that’s why nobody is taking him seriously …for not sticking to his guns.


That is absolute rubbish mate......We have always asked for our rights as equals in Cyprus....We are not asking for a seat as representatives of the "RoC" but ourselves......We have no intention of sitting behind you but side by side!!!

Well just as long as you don't climb on my lap... Image

Sorry, ahem... your post is worthy of a serious response but I just couldn't help myself there... :lol:
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