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Yes, along with a growing feeling that the AKP hasn't a clue how to deal with the crisis. After all, which verse of the Koran tells you how to steer an economy through a downturn!

Which verse of the Bible tells those in charge hot steer a Christian country through a downturn Tim?

I'd like to look it up if you give me a little clue as to where I can find it.

None. I think the concept of a religious political party is ridiculous.

What do you have to say about religion mixing with politics both in Greece and Cyprus?

[doesntmatter]

He is the merchant of doom and gloom against Turkey, conveniently forgetting there is a world crisis.

We are used to the tacitics of the GCs and Greeks VP, propaganda is their only "weapon".

[Kikapu]

Bir, a further important point is that, in my view, the AKP is on its way out. I base this conclusion on the observation that the Turkish electorate always rewards the ruling party when times are good (hence the AKP's resounding victory at the last elections) and punishes it at times of crisis. Turkey is going to be hit hard by the current economic crisis, which I believe has only just begun, which makes me quite sure that Erdoğan is already history.

I think this is what you are talking about, Tim.!

"Turkey's GDP slows, unemployment rises

The Associated PressPublished: December 15, 2008

ANKARA, Turkey: Turkey's economy continued to feel the impact of the global financial crisis as official figures released Monday showed gross domestic product growth slowing and unemployment rising.

A team from the International Monetary Fund will arrive in Turkey early January to discuss a possible loan deal to help Turkey's economy — plagued by a current account deficit — to weather the effects of the global financial crisis, the Treasury Undersecretariat said.

GDP growth slowed in the third quarter to a rate of only 0.5 percent, the Turkish Statistics Institute said. The growth rate in the first nine months reached 3 percent, it said.

The jobless rate rose to 10.3 percent in September from 9.3 percent in the same month of the previous year, the institute added.

The Treasury said there had been important progress in reaching a deal with the IMF. The details of the conditions and size of the possible loan were not announced.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the IMF since the previous deal for a standby loan ended in May.

But business groups have been pressuring the government to reach an agreement that would mitigate the effects of the global meltdown.

"The agreement that will be reached with the IMF will eliminate the uncertainty in the markets and increase Turkey's credibility," Arzuhan Yalcindag, head of the Turkish Industrialists and Business Association, or TUSIAD, told a conference in Istanbul. "The deal will also enable Turkey, which has to pay around US$50 billion (€37 billion) of foreign debt within a year, to breath."

OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria also attended the conference and said that no country was immune to the global crisis."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/ ... conomy.php

Can you give us a hint which country's unemployment has fallen and the GDP has risen in this global crisis?

UK? USA? anywhere in the EU or the world?

Before you can ask any questions to me DM, you need to answer the one question I had already asked you few days ago, which was, "do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws". As soon as you answer this question, I'll be glad to answer yours.!

[Tim Drayton]

Yes, along with a growing feeling that the AKP hasn't a clue how to deal with the crisis. After all, which verse of the Koran tells you how to steer an economy through a downturn!

Which verse of the Bible tells those in charge hot steer a Christian country through a downturn Tim?

I'd like to look it up if you give me a little clue as to where I can find it.

None. I think the concept of a religious political party is ridiculous.

What do you have to say about religion mixing with politics both in Greece and Cyprus?

I was very happy when President Christofias told Archbishop Chrystostomos to stay out of politics and firmly defended secularism, if that gives you an idea where my sympathies lie.

[doesntmatter]

Bir, a further important point is that, in my view, the AKP is on its way out. I base this conclusion on the observation that the Turkish electorate always rewards the ruling party when times are good (hence the AKP's resounding victory at the last elections) and punishes it at times of crisis. Turkey is going to be hit hard by the current economic crisis, which I believe has only just begun, which makes me quite sure that Erdoğan is already history.

I think this is what you are talking about, Tim.!

"Turkey's GDP slows, unemployment rises

The Associated PressPublished: December 15, 2008

ANKARA, Turkey: Turkey's economy continued to feel the impact of the global financial crisis as official figures released Monday showed gross domestic product growth slowing and unemployment rising.

A team from the International Monetary Fund will arrive in Turkey early January to discuss a possible loan deal to help Turkey's economy — plagued by a current account deficit — to weather the effects of the global financial crisis, the Treasury Undersecretariat said.

GDP growth slowed in the third quarter to a rate of only 0.5 percent, the Turkish Statistics Institute said. The growth rate in the first nine months reached 3 percent, it said.

The jobless rate rose to 10.3 percent in September from 9.3 percent in the same month of the previous year, the institute added.

The Treasury said there had been important progress in reaching a deal with the IMF. The details of the conditions and size of the possible loan were not announced.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the IMF since the previous deal for a standby loan ended in May.

But business groups have been pressuring the government to reach an agreement that would mitigate the effects of the global meltdown.

"The agreement that will be reached with the IMF will eliminate the uncertainty in the markets and increase Turkey's credibility," Arzuhan Yalcindag, head of the Turkish Industrialists and Business Association, or TUSIAD, told a conference in Istanbul. "The deal will also enable Turkey, which has to pay around US$50 billion (€37 billion) of foreign debt within a year, to breath."

OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria also attended the conference and said that no country was immune to the global crisis."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/ ... conomy.php

Can you give us a hint which country's unemployment has fallen and the GDP has risen in this global crisis?

UK? USA? anywhere in the EU or the world?

Before you can ask any questions to me DM, you need to answer the one question I had already asked you few days ago, which was, "do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws". As soon as you answer this question, I'll be glad to answer yours.!

When you give me my rights I'll accept your as well.

[doesntmatter]

Yes, along with a growing feeling that the AKP hasn't a clue how to deal with the crisis. After all, which verse of the Koran tells you how to steer an economy through a downturn!

Which verse of the Bible tells those in charge hot steer a Christian country through a downturn Tim?

I'd like to look it up if you give me a little clue as to where I can find it.

None. I think the concept of a religious political party is ridiculous.

What do you have to say about religion mixing with politics both in Greece and Cyprus?

I was very happy when President Christofias told Archbishop Chrystostomos to stay out of politics and firmly defended secularism, if that gives you an idea where my sympathies lie.

Any others before him do the same?

What about in Greece?

[Kikapu]

Bir, a further important point is that, in my view, the AKP is on its way out. I base this conclusion on the observation that the Turkish electorate always rewards the ruling party when times are good (hence the AKP's resounding victory at the last elections) and punishes it at times of crisis. Turkey is going to be hit hard by the current economic crisis, which I believe has only just begun, which makes me quite sure that Erdoğan is already history.

I think this is what you are talking about, Tim.!

"Turkey's GDP slows, unemployment rises

The Associated PressPublished: December 15, 2008

ANKARA, Turkey: Turkey's economy continued to feel the impact of the global financial crisis as official figures released Monday showed gross domestic product growth slowing and unemployment rising.

A team from the International Monetary Fund will arrive in Turkey early January to discuss a possible loan deal to help Turkey's economy — plagued by a current account deficit — to weather the effects of the global financial crisis, the Treasury Undersecretariat said.

GDP growth slowed in the third quarter to a rate of only 0.5 percent, the Turkish Statistics Institute said. The growth rate in the first nine months reached 3 percent, it said.

The jobless rate rose to 10.3 percent in September from 9.3 percent in the same month of the previous year, the institute added.

The Treasury said there had been important progress in reaching a deal with the IMF. The details of the conditions and size of the possible loan were not announced.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the IMF since the previous deal for a standby loan ended in May.

But business groups have been pressuring the government to reach an agreement that would mitigate the effects of the global meltdown.

"The agreement that will be reached with the IMF will eliminate the uncertainty in the markets and increase Turkey's credibility," Arzuhan Yalcindag, head of the Turkish Industrialists and Business Association, or TUSIAD, told a conference in Istanbul. "The deal will also enable Turkey, which has to pay around US$50 billion (€37 billion) of foreign debt within a year, to breath."

OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria also attended the conference and said that no country was immune to the global crisis."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/ ... conomy.php

Can you give us a hint which country's unemployment has fallen and the GDP has risen in this global crisis?

UK? USA? anywhere in the EU or the world?

Before you can ask any questions to me DM, you need to answer the one question I had already asked you few days ago, which was, "do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws". As soon as you answer this question, I'll be glad to answer yours.!

When you give me my rights I'll accept your as well.

Now I can see a complete resemblance between you and VP.

Neither one of you will answer a direct simple question that goes against your propaganda objectives.!

You two must have come out of the same propaganda school, with very bad grades I might add.!

Now answer the question before you make bigger fool of yourself than you already are.! The question was
"do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws".

[doesntmatter]

Bir, a further important point is that, in my view, the AKP is on its way out. I base this conclusion on the observation that the Turkish electorate always rewards the ruling party when times are good (hence the AKP's resounding victory at the last elections) and punishes it at times of crisis. Turkey is going to be hit hard by the current economic crisis, which I believe has only just begun, which makes me quite sure that Erdoğan is already history.

I think this is what you are talking about, Tim.!

"Turkey's GDP slows, unemployment rises

The Associated PressPublished: December 15, 2008

ANKARA, Turkey: Turkey's economy continued to feel the impact of the global financial crisis as official figures released Monday showed gross domestic product growth slowing and unemployment rising.

A team from the International Monetary Fund will arrive in Turkey early January to discuss a possible loan deal to help Turkey's economy — plagued by a current account deficit — to weather the effects of the global financial crisis, the Treasury Undersecretariat said.

GDP growth slowed in the third quarter to a rate of only 0.5 percent, the Turkish Statistics Institute said. The growth rate in the first nine months reached 3 percent, it said.

The jobless rate rose to 10.3 percent in September from 9.3 percent in the same month of the previous year, the institute added.

The Treasury said there had been important progress in reaching a deal with the IMF. The details of the conditions and size of the possible loan were not announced.

Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has been reluctant to sign a new deal with the IMF since the previous deal for a standby loan ended in May.

But business groups have been pressuring the government to reach an agreement that would mitigate the effects of the global meltdown.

"The agreement that will be reached with the IMF will eliminate the uncertainty in the markets and increase Turkey's credibility," Arzuhan Yalcindag, head of the Turkish Industrialists and Business Association, or TUSIAD, told a conference in Istanbul. "The deal will also enable Turkey, which has to pay around US$50 billion (€37 billion) of foreign debt within a year, to breath."

OECD Secretary-General Angel Gurria also attended the conference and said that no country was immune to the global crisis."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/12/ ... conomy.php

Can you give us a hint which country's unemployment has fallen and the GDP has risen in this global crisis?

UK? USA? anywhere in the EU or the world?

Before you can ask any questions to me DM, you need to answer the one question I had already asked you few days ago, which was, "do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws". As soon as you answer this question, I'll be glad to answer yours.!

When you give me my rights I'll accept your as well.

Now I can see a complete resemblance between you and VP.

Neither one of you will answer a direct simple question that goes against your propaganda objectives.!

You two must have come out of the same propaganda school, with very bad grades I might add.!

Now answer the question before you make bigger fool of yourself than you already are.! The question was
"do you accept Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws".

I have already given you my answer, whether you like it or not is your problem.

It's clear that in your haste to spread your propaganda against Turkey, you simply forgot that every country in the world is having the same difficulties with growing unemployment and falling GDP. Now all you are doing is trying to wiggle yourself out of the unpleasant predicament you got yourself in to by trying, not very successfully I might add, to change the subject.

I'll save you any further embarrassment and withdraw the question.

[Kikapu]

I have already given you my answer, whether you like it or not is your problem.

It's clear that in your haste to spread your propaganda against Turkey, you simply forgot that every country in the world is having the same difficulties with growing unemployment and falling GDP. Now all you are doing is trying to wiggle yourself out of the unpleasant predicament you got yourself in to by trying, not very successfully I might add, to change the subject.

I'll save you any further embarrassment and withdraw the question.

What ever you say doesntknow.!

How hard is it to answer a simple question. Do you believe in Democracy, Human Rights and International Law. I'll even make it simple for you and give an answer without any explanation. Just say YES or NO.

Since you also do not read and understand what is written, my post was complimenting what Tim had already wrote, that bad economy in Turkey may have direct effect to those in power to lose it. It had nothing to do with the world economy in general and that was not the purpose of my post. As I said, you must have left your propaganda school with very bad grades.! Just for your information, I have probably spent more time in Turkey than you.

[Get Real!]

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