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[MrH]

I believe our two leaders are deeply confused as to what, exactly, the "Swiss Model" of government is! If I am not mistaken, the main emphasis of the "Swiss Model" that both leaders so desperately refer to are as follows:

1) The Swiss Model of Government, as commonly suggested for our Island of Cyprus, prides its success on the advantages of a DE-Centralised government, which aims only to control those affairs which are "of interest" to all the Cantons. Does this idea not go against the Greek Cypriot demand for a "Stronger" central government? Then how can this new federal process be based on the "Swiss Model"?

2) Switzerland is divided into 26 areas called "Cantons" - with Zurich being one of them. According to the Swiss decentralised government, it only deals with matters of: Foreign Policy, National Defense, Federal Railways And "The Mint". All other issues, minor, include - education, labour, economic and welfare policies, only.

3) Each Canton has its own "Parliament" and "Constitution" and the "Differ" substantially from one another!

4) The Communes, which vary in size from a few hundred to more than a million people, also have their own legislative and executive councils.

5) Finally, The Cantonal and Communal "Governments" and elected by the Citizens resident in their areas of Jurisdiction.


Is Christofias actually aware of the parameters of the "Swiss Model"? Or have our leaders now switched to the "Belgium Model"?

If our leaders are "Serious" about seeking a Federal Republic of Cyprus, it certain does not appear to even remotely resemble the main areas of the Swiss Model above - or will it?

[Nikitas]

You left out FIR, ports, airports, immigration, citizenship, economy and some other "details" in the hands of the federal Swiss government.

The Swiss laws on treason are among the most draconian in the world, which explains why there are no close ties between the three ethnicities that make up Switzerland and neighboring "mothelands".

If that is the sysemt you propose we copy, I am for it.

[Nikitas]

OH yes, you also left out the basic freedoms of the right of free movement of people, right of establishment and property ownership anywhere in the federation for ALL citizens and the application of the principle one man one vote.

[Get Real!]

OH yes, you also left out the basic freedoms of the right of free movement of people, right of establishment and property ownership anywhere in the federation for ALL citizens and the application of the principle one man one vote.

You must be bored shitless to take on an "H" thread...

[MrH]

GR,

That's why I love you so much; you've always got something good to say towards me.

Efaristo re kumbare!

The Swiss Model is exactly that, an example of a "Model" only, but what elements and to what extent is adopted is up to our two leaders. Obviously the Swiss Framework was adopted in the Annan Plan, but the sensitivities of both Greek and Turkish Cypriot concerns had to take preference.

The Swiss Model is interesting, but I ultimately believe that our two leaders will ultimately hit a brick wall and have no choice but to agree on a Mutual Divorce. What that entails is any-one's guess, but I believe BOTH sides will have to give up a lot. Perhaps a considerable amount of land from the Turkish Cypriots, and the British Bases in return for complete autonomous Republic states.

I know you do not agree with what I am saying GR, but do you truly believe that the TCs will let go of their sensitivities just to make the GCs "Entirely" happy?

It's a Compromise that will be agreed, where I would be very interest to hear the EXTENT of your compromise - I'm being serious GR, no more games here mate. You know my lines of negotiation, and I clearly know yours, what is the extent of your compromise?

[CBBB]

With the Swiss model do we get free cuckoo clocks?

If we do, the cuckoos will probably be modelled on MrH!

[Get Real!]

If any undemocratic political arrangement was to ever be imposed in Cyprus I would have no option but to take my family and leave the country altogether as I will never accept living under a racist regime in the 21st century.

If you’re serious about peace and prosperity, democracy cannot be compromised.

[Paphitis]

If any undemocratic political arrangement was to ever be imposed in Cyprus I would have no option but to take my family and leave the country altogether as I will never accept living under a racist regime in the 21st century.

If you’re serious about peace and prosperity, democracy cannot be compromised.

Next stop, Greece!

Or is it back to Australia?

[MrH]

CBBB,

Very funny! or is it the BBC, talking about Cuckoos!

A Model similar to the Annan Plan, but with tighter securities could actually work, but you must admit that the Greek and Turkish Cypriot truly do have two agendas - which have been postponed for too long now. Something seriously has to be done, as once Eroglu is PM in 2009, and Talat is voted out in 2010, inevitable, it will be a completely different ball game.

This truly is the last chance for a "Fed/Confederal" style agreement.

[Get Real!]

If any undemocratic political arrangement was to ever be imposed in Cyprus I would have no option but to take my family and leave the country altogether as I will never accept living under a racist regime in the 21st century.

If you’re serious about peace and prosperity, democracy cannot be compromised.

Next stop, Greece!

Or is it back to Australia?

I never bothered to apply for aussie citizenship, despite being a permanent resident there for 15 years, on purpose so that I would never be able to return.

As for Greece, I’d sooner move to Bangladesh…

I’d consider Austria, Switzerland, or the British countryside.