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[Get Real!]

the only problem here in Greece is the excess of democracy..

A tolerance of anarchy is not democracy...

I agree. If they asked all Greeks how many of them would support such riots? Not the majority for sure! Democracy is not related with anarchy. Anarchy is undemocratic because people act however they feel like and they don't take into account what the majority wants!

It’s not just that. Not protecting the shopkeeper’s property, the streets, and the safety of residents is an abandonment of their duty to guard the citizen. They have pretty much given in to anarchy because they feel guilty that a youth was shot! Had they swiftly arrested and thrown that youth and accomplices early on in the slammer, none of this shit would be happening today.

[zan]

the only problem here in Greece is the excess of democracy..

A tolerance of anarchy is not democracy...

I agree. If they asked all Greeks how many of them would support such riots? Not the majority for sure! Democracy is not related with anarchy. Anarchy is undemocratic because people act however they feel like and they don't take into account what the majority wants!

It is also disrespectful to the rule of law and third partyu property.

Most are just looking for an excuse to cause trouble.

The people and the government are all corrupt and inhumane.....Just like those bloody Turks...

I was just getting to that!

I updated my post.

Hindsite is a wonderful thing

[Nikitas]

"the only problem here in Greece is the excess of democracy.."

And it has been going on for years. There is a fear for authorities to assert themselves lest they should be likened to the dictators. The result is a free for all and things are left to develop till they erupt.

There are participators in the "demostrations" calling radio stations and excusing the property destruction on the grounds that the majority of premises destroyed were banks and that most burnt cars were luxury vehicles. It takes a special mindset to understand this kind of statement and my Cypriot background does not let me make this intellectual leap.

There is a funny side to the riots. While Greek police face off Greek anarchist rioters immigrant thieves run out of burning shops holding huge plasma TVs, mixers and all manner of consumer goods and run back to the immigrant aras (the equivalent of Harringey in Athens). Poverty has no time for ideology and dogma.

[karma]

the only problem here in Greece is the excess of democracy..

A tolerance of anarchy is not democracy...

I agree. If they asked all Greeks how many of them would support such riots? Not the majority for sure! Democracy is not related with anarchy. Anarchy is undemocratic because people act however they feel like and they don't take into account what the majority wants!

Tis is what I was trying to say, the problem is not the democracy but the excess, for the sake of ''democracy''

if it is not a provocation against the current gov. then it is really a serious social psychological matter

[Get Real!]

Poverty has no time for ideology and dogma.

Unless it's called "TRNC"...

[DT.]

the paranoia still carried by Greek Govt officials from the days of th junta leads to statement such as the minister of interiors today when he stressed 4 times! in an interview that any measures cannot jeoperdise the democratic quality of life any greek. Translation...We can't release a Greek equivalent of a Patriot Act cause they'd lynch us.

[Paphitis]

Basically, the Greek Police are taking a very soft approach in order to not escalate the things even further.

It is unfortunate that the incident occured, and now The Greek Police feel like they are walking on egg shells.

The anarchists really should be ashamed of themselves. Destroying property and looting shops should not be tolerated regardless of the death of the 15 year old.

[zan]

Basically, the Greek Police are taking a very soft approach in order to not escalate the things even further.

It is unfortunate that the incident occured, and now The Greek Police feel like they are walking on egg shells.

The anarchists really should be ashamed of themselves. Destroying property and looting shops should not be tolerated regardless of the death of the 15 year old.

POlice brutality is a wonderful thing

[MrH]

On my behalf, it's a damn shame what happened to the young boy, but even more disastrous how the public have VIOLENTLY responded.

I can't stop thinking how the Greek Cypriots in Cyprus would respond if a Greek Cypriot person should accidentally get shot by a Turkish Cypriot Security Police Force in a "United Federal Republic of Cyprus"?

Would rioting breakout, or are the Greek Cypriot people different in nature than their fellow motherland compatriot Greeks in mainland Greece?

Can you imagine a riot like that in Cyprus, but to add additional fuel to the fire, hatred towards all Turkish Cypriots as well. I know you might think that I am acting a little too hypothetical, but these events did happen in the past (1960s).

Apart from what I've said above, I believe the Greek people of Athens are completely wrong in acting the way they are. It's obviously not the fault an innocent shop-owners in Athens whose shop has been destroyed in the firing line if a person one hundred miles away was killed innocently by a Policeman.

Are these people examples of a European Union educated society?

[Oracle]

Apathy will see the end of civilisation, not protest.

As usual the casualties are due to opportunists, but at least people are not frightened to protest.