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[zan]

TPap is no longer in power, Zan. Christofas is. Let's see what he and Talat come up with, and also gauge the reaction from Athens and Ankara to their ideas. Let's not dismiss things yet.

From what I have seen on this Forum and the way the talks are going so far my hope has been dented severely utu......I don't make decisions on even trivial matters without thinking them through...I only hope my brothers in the TRNC do the same......

[utu]

This is an interesting development. Two individuals (utu and Expatkiwi)which less than a year ago were analysing the Cyprus Problem from a pro-Turkish/TC point of view, appear to be questioning their partisan-ships.

As I said to you utu, on another thread, it won't be long before Expatkiwi reappraises altogether, in favour of the GCs.

Your Ph.D. is having a soporific effect on you too, utu!

Education, time and deep analysis will stop the Turks in their lying tracks.

Expatkiwi's achilles heel seems to be that he believes in literally what the text of the north's UDI says.... The only problem with that is that hardly anyone living in the north believes in it... least of all Turkey.

To Expatkiwi's credit, his belief in Self-Determinaton being a universal right is a whole-hearted one. Hovever, he needs to understand that a UDI does not make necessarilly a free country...

Yeah, right! A UDI on stolen land, homes and herritage, is indeed a "universal right!" Yeah!

As I said, he evidentally believes that the right is being ligitimately exercised by the Turkish Cypriots. He did mention to me one time that the north would - in the name of maintaining ligitimacy - have to give up a certain percentage of land to the RoCy to correspond to the percentage of what the Turkish Cypriots had before December 1963, (though the land percentage figure is also not exactly undisputed either... 15% to 31%, take your pick). But even with the current percentage of land (37%)being under control of the north, economic self-sufficiency - which really is what makes independence a reality for any country - will not happen for them. It's not happening now!

[zan]

This is an interesting development. Two individuals (utu and Expatkiwi)which less than a year ago were analysing the Cyprus Problem from a pro-Turkish/TC point of view, appear to be questioning their partisan-ships.

As I said to you utu, on another thread, it won't be long before Expatkiwi reappraises altogether, in favour of the GCs.

Your Ph.D. is having a soporific effect on you too, utu!

Education, time and deep analysis will stop the Turks in their lying tracks.

Expatkiwi's achilles heel seems to be that he believes in literally what the text of the north's UDI says.... The only problem with that is that hardly anyone living in the north believes in it... least of all Turkey.

To Expatkiwi's credit, his belief in Self-Determinaton being a universal right is a whole-hearted one. Hovever, he needs to understand that a UDI does not make necessarilly a free country...

Yeah, right! A UDI on stolen land, homes and herritage, is indeed a "universal right!" Yeah!

As I said, he evidentally believes that the right is being ligitimately exercised by the Turkish Cypriots. He did mention to me one time that the north would - in the name of maintaining ligitimacy - have to give up a certain percentage of land to the RoCy to correspond to the percentage of what the Turkish Cypriots had before December 1963, (though the land percentage figure is also not exactly undisputed either... 15% to 31%, take your pick). But even with the current percentage of land (37%)being under control of the north, economic self-sufficiency - which really is what makes independence a reality for any country - will not happen for them. It's not happening now!

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

[utu]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

[Get Real!]

This is an interesting development. Two individuals (utu and Expatkiwi)which less than a year ago were analysing the Cyprus Problem from a pro-Turkish/TC point of view, appear to be questioning their partisan-ships.

As I said to you utu, on another thread, it won't be long before Expatkiwi reappraises altogether, in favour of the GCs.

Your Ph.D. is having a soporific effect on you too, utu!

Education, time and deep analysis will stop the Turks in their lying tracks.

Expatkiwi's achilles heel seems to be that he believes in literally what the text of the north's UDI says.... The only problem with that is that hardly anyone living in the north believes in it... least of all Turkey.

To Expatkiwi's credit, his belief in Self-Determinaton being a universal right is a whole-hearted one. Hovever, he needs to understand that a UDI does not make necessarilly a free country...

Yeah, right! A UDI on stolen land, homes and herritage, is indeed a "universal right!" Yeah!

As I said, he evidentally believes that the right is being ligitimately exercised by the Turkish Cypriots. He did mention to me one time that the north would - in the name of maintaining ligitimacy - have to give up a certain percentage of land to the RoCy to correspond to the percentage of what the Turkish Cypriots had before December 1963, (though the land percentage figure is also not exactly undisputed either... 15% to 31%, take your pick). But even with the current percentage of land (37%)being under control of the north, economic self-sufficiency - which really is what makes independence a reality for any country - will not happen for them. It's not happening now!

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!

I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I’m weary of anyone who meddles too much in other country’s affairs… I can’t imagine myself becoming a campaigner for some remote location across the continents that I have no affiliation with… it’s just weird.

[zan]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

If you Google him, as I did, he is pretty big in the "War hammer" scene too.........I just find it all a bit creepy thats all.....

[Get Real!]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

If you Google him, as I did, he is pretty big in the "War hammer" scene too.........I just find it all a bit creepy thats all.....

Futuristic fantasy acting... pretending you're Captain Kurk and all that...

[utu]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

If you Google him, as I did, he is pretty big in the "War hammer" scene too.........I just find it all a bit creepy thats all.....

I chatted to him via e-mail a while back. He wished me the best of luck with my thesis, but didn't mention to me anything about "war hammer". He likes to talk about flags and his contributions to the Flags Of The World site. I'll have to ask him about "war hammer"...

[zan]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

If you Google him, as I did, he is pretty big in the "War hammer" scene too.........I just find it all a bit creepy thats all.....

Futuristic fantasy acting... pretending you're Captain Kurk and all that...

Then there was the time that he got upset that people were picking on him and his wife came on line and said he was very upset and people actually apologised to him....

Anyway........I have already said too much on this.......

[Get Real!]

We are not allowed to sell our goods to anyone utu.....How can we get any better if that is the case.......Cuba survived and only just!!!!


I have to say one thing about Expat that alarmed me when I was writing on the ATCA Forum a while back...He confessed to raising the TRNC every morning and saluting to it.......I never really spoke to him after that......A Kiwi doing that.....Was I wrong?????

I saw the picture he sent to ATCA showing the north's flag on his flagpole. As to "saluting" it, I haven't read that bit. He did mention that he has a collection of several hundred flags, including those of Turkey, Greece, and Cyprus. I wonder if he flies those as well?

If you Google him, as I did, he is pretty big in the "War hammer" scene too.........I just find it all a bit creepy thats all.....

Futuristic fantasy acting... pretending you're Captain Kurk and all that...

Then there was the time that he got upset that people were picking on him and his wife came on line and said he was very upset and people actually apologised to him....

Anyway........I have already said too much on this.......

Reminds me of Miltiades when he was upset and his kid came online…