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[halil]

SOYER: I’M NOT STANDING UP FOR A CONFEDERATION’

Turkish Cypriot and Greek Cypriot ruling party leaders have voiced their views over the establishment of a confederation in Cyprus.
Prime Minister- the Leader of the Republican Turkish Party Ferdi Sabit Soyer and Greek Cypriot Leader-AKEL Head Demetris Christofias have both said confederation would be a wrong choice.

A bi-communal event was organized in the South by CTP and AKEL organizations last night under the slogan `We are fighting for reunification, we want a solution`.
Firstly speaking, AKEL official Nicos Ioannou said comprehensive talks between the two leaders have opened a window of optimism in the way towards reaching a bi-communal, bi-zonal settlement on the basis of political equality, single sovereignty, single citizenship and single international identity as envisaged by the UN resolutions.

Speaking next, Prime Minister and CTP Leader Soyer expressed his support to the negotiations process from the heart and underlined the need for establishing a bi-communal, bi-zonal federal solution model in Cyprus by two constituent states.
`I am not standing up for a confederation. This land is ours, it’s our common land and thus we need to continue struggling for a federal Cyprus` Soyer stressed.

Taking his turn after the Premier, the Greek Cypriot Leader Demetris Christofias said the launch of negotiations is promising in a way, but also noted that the first few months of negotiations have not met their expectations.
Christofias added that pessimism and fatalism would be the worst pole stars for the solution of the Cyprus problem.

`Despite of everything, we will stay committed to the vision that foresees the reunification of two Cyprus peoples, institutions and economies in a common land` Christofias said.
As in response to Mr Soyer’s statement on the issue of confederation, Mr Christofias shared the view that confederation would not be a good choice for Cyprus as he said this would be a catastrophe for the island.

The Greek Cypriot Leader went on to say that the Greek Cypriot side definitely rejects all offers of solution imposed by foreign forces and stressed, `I strongly believe in the necessity for not leaving our own destiny into others’ hands`.
After the speeches, the bi-communal event then continued with a dance show performed by the Gazimagusa Municipality’s Folk Dancing Group.

[Bananiot]

I did not go but I heard encouraging stories from the meeting by my spies (sister and brother-in-law) in Derynia. Still keeping our fingers crossed.

[halil]

I did not go but I heard encouraging stories from the meeting by my spies (sister and brother-in-law) in Derynia. Still keeping our fingers crossed.

Bananiot ,
while ago another news came to BRT news room about Soyer İnterview at Alithia news paper , he his not happy with Christofias ideas says . i will try to get English translation of the news . May be you did get chance to read it in alithia news paper .

it was few lines .....

SOYER: HRİSTOFYAS’A ÇOK KIRGINIM ( He is disappointed with Christofias )

Başbakan Ferdi Sabit Soyer, Kıbrıslı Türklerin ve Kıbrıs Türk siyasi liderliğinin Türkiye’nin denetimi altında olduğunu iddia ettiği için Hristofyas’a çok kırgın olduğunu söyledi.

Soyer said : he is disappointed from Christofias , because he says Turkish Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots political leadership is under the Turkey's control from this reason he is upset with Christofias.

Başbakan Soyer, Rum tarafında yayınlanan Alithia gazetesine verdiği demeçte,


“Eğer bize bu gözle; yani kimliksiz ve ilkesiz bakıyorsa, o zaman neden federasyon çözümünü savunuyor? Burada idrak yeteneği olmayan insanlar mı yaşıyor? Kimliksiz, siyasi yaşamlarını savunamayan insanlar mı? Federasyon sistemini gerçekten destekliyorsa Kıbrıslı Türklerin kendi kimlikleri, kendi siyasi dinamikleri ve işbirliği istekleri olduğuna da inanmalıdır. Bunu göstermelidir de” diye konuştu.

If he looks us with this idea ,
we have no identity ,we have no principles than why he is talking about federal solution ?
Does he thinks in here people are living without cognizant abilities ?
If he really thinks federal solution he must believe Turkish Cypriots identities , political dynamics and they are willing , they are willing for cooperation . he must show this to us .


Her iki tarafta da siyasi ortamın milliyetçilerin denetiminde olduğuna dikkat çeken Soyer, “her iki taraftaki milliyetçiler çözüm istemiyorlar ve Kıbrıs sorununu çözmek için ortak dil bulamazsak, her iki taraftaki milliyetçiler, maalesef geçmişte bizleri trajedilere sürükleyen tarihi tekrar edecekler. Bu milliyetçiler hayatımızı, adamızı zehirliyorlar ve halka korku salıyorlar. Bu nedenle kelimelere yapışıp kalmamalıyız” dedi.

In both sides political arena is under the nationalist control . In both sides nationalists does not want solution .
If we can not find common language these nationalists at both sides will force us for more tragedy , they can repeat the history.
these nationalists are poisoning our island and spreading fear ... thats why we must not stuck with the words.

[zan]

I did not go but I heard encouraging stories from the meeting by my spies (sister and brother-in-law) in Derynia. Still keeping our fingers crossed.

Bananiot ,
while ago another news came to BRT news room about Soyer İnterview at Alithia news paper , he his not happy with Christofias ideas says . i will try to get English translation of the news . May be you did get chance to read it in alithia news paper .

it was few lines .....

SOYER: HRİSTOFYAS’A ÇOK KIRGINIM ( He is disappointed with Christofias )

Başbakan Ferdi Sabit Soyer, Kıbrıslı Türklerin ve Kıbrıs Türk siyasi liderliğinin Türkiye’nin denetimi altında olduğunu iddia ettiği için Hristofyas’a çok kırgın olduğunu söyledi.

Soyer said : he is disappointed from Christofias , because he says Turkish Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots political leadership is under the Turkey's control from this reason he is upset with Christofias.

Başbakan Soyer, Rum tarafında yayınlanan Alithia gazetesine verdiği demeçte,


“Eğer bize bu gözle; yani kimliksiz ve ilkesiz bakıyorsa, o zaman neden federasyon çözümünü savunuyor? Burada idrak yeteneği olmayan insanlar mı yaşıyor? Kimliksiz, siyasi yaşamlarını savunamayan insanlar mı? Federasyon sistemini gerçekten destekliyorsa Kıbrıslı Türklerin kendi kimlikleri, kendi siyasi dinamikleri ve işbirliği istekleri olduğuna da inanmalıdır. Bunu göstermelidir de” diye konuştu.

If he looks us with this idea ,
we have no identity ,we have no principles than why he is talking about federal solution ?
Does he thinks in here people are living without cognizant abilities ?
If he really thinks federal solution he must believe Turkish Cypriots identities , political dynamics and they are willing , they are willing for cooperation . he must show this to us .


Her iki tarafta da siyasi ortamın milliyetçilerin denetiminde olduğuna dikkat çeken Soyer, “her iki taraftaki milliyetçiler çözüm istemiyorlar ve Kıbrıs sorununu çözmek için ortak dil bulamazsak, her iki taraftaki milliyetçiler, maalesef geçmişte bizleri trajedilere sürükleyen tarihi tekrar edecekler. Bu milliyetçiler hayatımızı, adamızı zehirliyorlar ve halka korku salıyorlar. Bu nedenle kelimelere yapışıp kalmamalıyız” dedi.

In both sides political arena is under the nationalist control . In both sides nationalists does not want solution .
If we can not find common language these nationalists at both sides will force us for more tragedy , they can repeat the history.
these nationalists are poisoning our island and spreading fear ... thats why we must not stuck with the words.

I am glad to see him paying attention to EVERY word Halil.

[Bananiot]

Halil, I read the interview and I know how he feels about Christofias. I think we should wait and see, may be we can soon push aside the nationalists and get on with the process of finding solution.

[zan]

Halil, I read the interview and I know how he feels about Christofias. I think we should wait and see, may be we can soon push aside the nationalists and get on with the process of finding solution.

A good strong honest agreement will see the parameters that qualify some as nationalists alter Bananiot.

[Kifeas]

Halil, I read the interview and I know how he feels about Christofias. I think we should wait and see, may be we can soon push aside the nationalists and get on with the process of finding solution.

Bananiot, if you are not "throwing" slogans around, again, then you must tell us here which nationalists in the GC side are you talking about, and which influence the way Christofias is currently negotiating. Is Christofias one of those nationalists you refer to, or you mean to say that Christofias is ready and willing for more concessions than the ones he already offered, but certain nationalist circles in the GC society (those you want to push aside, presumably) block or obstruct his way?

Of course -as I said, there is always the possibility that the above was just another one of your empty clichés and slogans!

[zan]

Halil, I read the interview and I know how he feels about Christofias. I think we should wait and see, may be we can soon push aside the nationalists and get on with the process of finding solution.

Bananiot, if you are not "throwing" slogans around, again, then you must tell us here which nationalists in the GC side are you talking about, and which influence the way Christofias is currently negotiating. Is Christofias one of those nationalists you refer to, or you mean to say that Christofias is ready and willing for more concessions than the ones he already offered, but certain nationalist circles in the GC society block or obstruct his way?

Of course -as I said, there is always the possibility that the above was just another one of your empty clichés and slogans!

Makes a mockery of my comment, above, really! The parameters seem to be fluctuating all over the place

[Bananiot]

Nationalists, of the likes of DIKO and EDEK who co-govern with Christofias and of course, yourself Kifeas. Do not start crying now for you have become a right old nationalist, one that has finally seen the world with Denktash's eyes and seconds his calls for partition as the only possible solution. Unless of course you have changed your mind again.

[Kifeas]

Halil, I read the interview and I know how he feels about Christofias. I think we should wait and see, may be we can soon push aside the nationalists and get on with the process of finding solution.

A good strong honest agreement will see the parameters that qualify some as nationalists alter Bananiot.

It indeed it makes a mockery of you, your above statement, Zan, not because of my comments to Bananiot, but the fact that it is a meaningless statement to begin with.