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Postby zan » Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:42 pm

miltiades wrote:Zan , we have many many FACTS in this world we live in , take for instance paedophilia , it does exist , incest , it does exist , burglaries , robberies and deceases , all are FACTS . Are we to accept the illegal occupation of a part of our country by Turkey as morally correct because it is a FACT ?

The entire world considers the occupied part of Cyprus to be just that , occupied by Turkey and recognizes that the ROC is the legitimate government of all Cypriots.
I think you know my views on flags so I wont go into it.


But you readily ask us to accept the taking over of my country by a hostile force that took the moment to trick the rest of the world into submission. That only says to me that I can now use the same system to get back my rights and that I don't have to play fair....Those that didn't in the past have control of my country. It tells me that all I have to do is wait for the moment that will best suit me and I will get what I want regardless.....It also tells me that if that were to happen, then you would have no right to dispute it but support it as you do the present situation. We have bee promised by individual countries and the EU that we would get things that they have not delivered......More reason to fight!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:27 pm

zan wrote:I wonder what would happen to this Armenian politician if he dared to promote anything Armenian in the "RoC".......How about..Bye bye Mr president!!!


Correct me if I'm wrong Zan, but isn't the Armenian politician you are talking about is a Cypriot of Armenian heritage, or else how can he become a President of Cyprus if he is an Armenian. If he is a Cypriot Armenian, then he will do what is best for his country of Cyprus and all it's citizens. This is where the GC's do not trust TC leadership at the moment, because they only see themselves as seperate people and not as a Cypriot, which they fear, that they will help Turkey more than they will help all other Cypriots. Look at how much Talat is complaining to the EU that Christofias is picking on Turkey for that and for this. This paints mistrust, that Talat's aim is to help Turkey with her EU entry and not so much finding a Fair and Just solution for all Cypriots.

I guess you think Obama will now become Kenyan again because of his heritage and no longer stay as an American. Well, you might be right, as it was alleged that he was now bringing all his long lost family to the USA as seen in this picture. Brings a new meaning to "Coming to America".!

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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:42 pm

As a Cypriot, I send my condolences to the family of the former President of Cyprus, Tassos Papadopoulos.!

Passing away of any President, whether while they are in office or out of office has a special meaning to the citizens of that country and history in general. These people have a unique place reserved for them now until end of time for the future generation to read about them, whether they leave behind a Good or Bad legacy, is no longer their concern, but for those who will judge them. These are very special people who were chosen by their own people, therefore they reserve respect as they rest in peace.!
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Postby lovernomore » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:46 pm

Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
zan wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:If it is any consolation, Denktash has also passed on his condolences to the family of TPapa.

I just thought somebody might be wondering.




The best statesman we have ever had.

I have asked the question but people are too scared to answer it....Will former president of the TRNC be allowed to the funeral by the GCs.....Appearing on their streets and TV???


I am positive that Denktash would have been allowed to attend the Church Service as an individual and former leader of the TC community, had he wished to do so.

What was disappointing about the service was that no foreign head of state attended the service. Tassos Pappadopoulos will no doubt be remembered as a statesman of the calibre of Makarios himself, and yet the only Head of State that properly paid due respect to him, was that of Greece. Very sobering thought for those that are so eager to engage in Greek bashing.

Is Greece our only friend? :?


The GC people was there. That's all he would have wanted. 8)


I am certain that what you said is true.

Cypriots were all that mattered to him. But still, it would have been nice if there were wreaths laid by Foreign diplomats.

I for one am very disappointed in my own country for not being present at the Church Service, as a sign of respect to a former President.


Shows you the complications of this mans status.....History will judge him, as others have said. I hope that half the history is not forgotten. :evil:


It will not. How can history forget a person who served his country in EOKA's political arm, then as Minister from the age of 24. He served his country for well over 50 years, and will be remembered for instigating the Heroic OHI and thus saving The Republic of Cyprus and her people from destruction.


He served the GCs and nothing else....The country is split because of it.


Actually Zan, he also served TCs as well, as he fought for a truly just solution based on basic Democratic and Human Rights which would benefit all Cypriot Ctizens and not favour one over the other.


Pafidis, you are a good comedian :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .
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Postby lovernomore » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:43 pm

and another one for you Pafaidis :lol:

Cyprus's 'Mr No' refused to make peace with Turks
By Kerin Hope

Published: December 15 2008 02:00 | Last updated: December 15 2008 02:00

Tassos Papadopoulos, the former president of Cyprus dubbed "Mr No" for his sustained opposition to making peace with the Turkish Cypriot community, died on December 12 of lung cancer. He was 74.

In 2004 he broke into tears during a live television appearance while urging Greek Cypriots to vote against a United Nations-brokered reunification plan for the island, saying it was "unworkable".

Papadopoulos's emotional appeal contributed to the Greek Cypriots' rejection of the UN plan at referendum by a two-thirds majority. As a result, Cyprus joined the European Union in May 2004 without the Turkish Cypriots, although they had backed the plan in a separate vote.

The European Commission felt it had been tricked into allowing the accession of a divided Cyprus, as Papadopoulos had assured Brussels the referendum would have "a positive outcome".

Papadopoulos, the son of a teacher, was born in Nicosia in 1934. As a teenager he joined the EOKA guerrilla movement fighting for independence from British colonial rule. His nationalist views did not prevent him from studying law in London, for Cypriots a first step to a fast-track political career.

By the age of 23 he led EOKA's political wing. He boasted in later life that he was the only senior leader of the group to have escaped capture by the British.

After Cyprus won independence in 1960, Papadopoulos became the youngest member in the cabinet of Archbishop Makarios, the new president. As labour minister - one of six cabinet posts he held successively - he set up the island's social welfare system.

Papadopoulos combined nationalist politics with running the island's most successful law practice, specialising in handling companies established under Cyprus's lightly regulated offshore jurisdiction.

In the 1990s his firm set up front companies to handle the Yugoslav government's illegal transfer in cash of several billion dollars to Greek Cypriot banks, in order to avoid UN sanctions on trade with Belgrade.

Papadopoulos swept to victory in the 2003 presidential election after his Democratic party joined forces with Akel, the Cyprus communist party. But after EU accession his hardline policies appeared to lose ground with voters. Seeking re-election in February this year, he was knocked out in the first round. He retired from politics after Demetris Christofias, the Akel chairman and his former ally, won the presidency.

He is survived by his wife Foteini, a member of the wealthy Leventis family; his son Nikos, a politician; and daughter Anastasia, a lawyer.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ebdffade-ca47 ... ck_check=1
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:54 pm

Cyprus's 'Mr No' refused to make peace with Turks
By Kerin Hope

Published: December 15 2008

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ebdffade-ca47 ... 07658.html

I found Kerin Hope's title of her story above at the time of the death of the person she is referring to, Tassos Papadopoulos, absolutely inappropriate. There's no need to guess as to which way her support goes when it comes to Cyprus. Somebody should tell this stupid bitch that we are Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus and not Turks.! Dumb Broad.! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Postby zan » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:30 pm

Kikapu wrote:
zan wrote:I wonder what would happen to this Armenian politician if he dared to promote anything Armenian in the "RoC".......How about..Bye bye Mr president!!!


Correct me if I'm wrong Zan, but isn't the Armenian politician you are talking about is a Cypriot of Armenian heritage, or else how can he become a President of Cyprus if he is an Armenian. If he is a Cypriot Armenian, then he will do what is best for his country of Cyprus and all it's citizens. This is where the GC's do not trust TC leadership at the moment, because they only see themselves as seperate people and not as a Cypriot, which they fear, that they will help Turkey more than they will help all other Cypriots. Look at how much Talat is complaining to the EU that Christofias is picking on Turkey for that and for this. This paints mistrust, that Talat's aim is to help Turkey with her EU entry and not so much finding a Fair and Just solution for all Cypriots.

I guess you think Obama will now become Kenyan again because of his heritage and no longer stay as an American. Well, you might be right, as it was alleged that he was now bringing all his long lost family to the USA as seen in this picture. Brings a new meaning to "Coming to America".!

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Do you people understand what is said to you...:Let alone what you write :roll: :roll:

You make my point over and then claim it as some revelation :roll: :lol: :lol:

The point being that he has no choice. He is part of the Greek system. Perhaps you will be happy when the only TC left on the island also runs for president.. :roll: :roll: :roll: I do not wish to have my Turkish Culture eroded......understand???
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:32 pm

Kikapu wrote:Cyprus's 'Mr No' refused to make peace with Turks
By Kerin Hope

Published: December 15 2008

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ebdffade-ca47 ... 07658.html

I found Kerin Hope's title of her story above at the time of the death of the person she is referring to, Tassos Papadopoulos, absolutely inappropriate. There's no need to guess as to which way her support goes when it comes to Cyprus. Somebody should tell this stupid bitch that we are Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus and not Turks.! Dumb Broad.! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Perhaps she meant Turks, not Turkish Cypriots. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:00 pm

I attended from around 9:30am to just prior to 11; just missed the arrival of Christofias and Karamanlis. The place was packed non-stop, saw many of the usual politicians (past & present), a large assortment of uniforms some I couldn’t even recognize, diplomats from many countries, many ladies of the “high society”, and every one of the protagonists at Kykkos.

A lot of formality was implemented, more so than at Spiros Kyprianou’s funeral. Overall it was pretty tiring to go through the slow process because of all the people and I felt sorry for the various NG elements that stood there mostly motionless for hours; it reminded me of my days proudly parading in Nicosia yet knackered…:)

Overall a very memorable church service befitting the only true statesman since Makarios… may his memory live on forever and his soul rest alongside the greatest patriots of Cyprus.

Regards, GR.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Cyprus's 'Mr No' refused to make peace with Turks
By Kerin Hope

Published: December 15 2008

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ebdffade-ca47 ... 07658.html

I found Kerin Hope's title of her story above at the time of the death of the person she is referring to, Tassos Papadopoulos, absolutely inappropriate. There's no need to guess as to which way her support goes when it comes to Cyprus. Somebody should tell this stupid bitch that we are Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus and not Turks.! Dumb Broad.! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



Perhaps she meant Turks, not Turkish Cypriots. :lol:


Except that she was talking about the Annan Plan, which can only mean the TC's. Financial Times has a habit of making stupid reports like the one above, in particular from this dumb broad.!
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