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[BirKibrisli]

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... er&start=0

Are you comparing Ecevit with Papadopoulos???

Ecevit ordered the invasion that killed 1000s of Cypriots and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands. Do you, or anybody disputes this fact? What did Papadopoulos did to you? He didn't agree that an 18% minority along with foreigners should have the right to undemocratically impose their will on Cyprus? That was his "crime"?

I wonder, if you had the power would you convict Papadopoulos for his "crime" like you did with Archbishop Kyprianos?

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

Piratis,
Oracle was disputing that anything bad was said about Ecevit on this Forum...so I provided the link above for her information...I am not comparing the two...But you have to realise that for most TCs the demand for Enosis and the efforts of the EOKA to bring it about are anathema... Your failure to grasp this point is unfortunate.
It takes away from the credibility of your arguments...We are not talking about historical facts,mate,but emotional thinking and conditioning.Very powerful stuff indeed.But you can't dismiss it out of hand like you seem to do. It is the key to most of our problems,which must be addressed if we are to reunite our homeland...

[zan]

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... er&start=0

Are you comparing Ecevit with Papadopoulos???

Ecevit ordered the invasion that killed 1000s of Cypriots and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands. Do you, or anybody disputes this fact? What did Papadopoulos did to you? He didn't agree that an 18% minority along with foreigners should have the right to undemocratically impose their will on Cyprus? That was his "crime"?

I wonder, if you had the power would you convict Papadopoulos for his "crime" like you did with Archbishop Kyprianos?

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

Piratis,
Oracle was disputing that anything bad was said about Ecevit on this Forum...so I provided the link above for her information...I am not comparing the two...But you have to realise that for most TCs the demand for Enosis and the efforts of the EOKA to bring it about are anathema... Your failure to grasp this point is unfortunate.
It takes away from the credibility of your arguments...We are not talking about historical facts,mate,but emotional thinking and conditioning.Very powerful stuff indeed.But you can't dismiss it out of hand like you seem to do. It is the key to most of our problems,which must be addressed if we are to reunite our homeland...

hahahahahaaaaaa....Piratis is so funny...I do like this new group that has been formed with the old tactics of "Just keep asking for proof. They will soon give up"... You guys are so obvious that it makes me want to cry....Bafitis being the newest recruit.....Kind of cute really!!!!

TPap is a murderer and the author of the Akritas plan in which all eventualities were taken care of....Either trick the TCs and the world into submission or wipe out the TCs when we are sure that Turkey will not come. Thabnk heavens we had some friends in the world or we would not be here to argue the point with these purveyors of murder and destruction...

[Oracle]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

You can use the bottle of champagne, I am going to open, to wash out the stains....

Well done Zan, openng a bottle of champagne to celebrate a death. You've really made an effort there.

Perhaps you should go back and read all the posts when Ecevit or Denktas was mentioned.........Where were you then......Sipping Cyprus wines maybe???

Your imagination is wrecking havoc with your excuses ... Yes Zan go back over the thread and you will see, not a single person mentioned Ecevit and the only one who mentioned Denktash was ...... Karma!

Do yourself a favour,Oracle,and search for some of the threads where Ecevit's name has been mentioned....Even you might be ashamed of some of the comments there...

Karma tries to make light of most things....It is her way of dissipating tension and promoting good-will...She doesn't always succeed,but she always means well...Trust me,I know...

I am not interested in Turks like Ecevit (he is your hero not mine, or of any other CYPRIOT!). But I certainly would not delight in death-wishes.

You cannot justify what has been said about a dying man by asserting to some pasts posts on a Turk who killed thousands of Cypriots and destroyed our island ... Besides, they remain gossip as neither you nor Zan can find anything equivalent to what has gone on here!

You also do not have to excuse Karma to me ... I have no complaint with Karma or her quirky humour. It was Zan that moaned about her wish to see an end to Denktash.

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8012&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ecevit+murderer&start=0

So Ecevit and Papadopoulos are comparable in your eyes!

...Thanks for showing your true colours Bir.

Your hero is a Turk that has destroyed Cyprus.

[zan]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

You can use the bottle of champagne, I am going to open, to wash out the stains....

Well done Zan, openng a bottle of champagne to celebrate a death. You've really made an effort there.

Perhaps you should go back and read all the posts when Ecevit or Denktas was mentioned.........Where were you then......Sipping Cyprus wines maybe???

Your imagination is wrecking havoc with your excuses ... Yes Zan go back over the thread and you will see, not a single person mentioned Ecevit and the only one who mentioned Denktash was ...... Karma!

Do yourself a favour,Oracle,and search for some of the threads where Ecevit's name has been mentioned....Even you might be ashamed of some of the comments there...

Karma tries to make light of most things....It is her way of dissipating tension and promoting good-will...She doesn't always succeed,but she always means well...Trust me,I know...

I am not interested in Turks like Ecevit (he is your hero not mine, or of any other CYPRIOT!). But I certainly would not delight in death-wishes.

You cannot justify what has been said about a dying man by asserting to some pasts posts on a Turk who killed thousands of Cypriots and destroyed our island ... Besides, they remain gossip as neither you nor Zan can find anything equivalent to what has gone on here!

You also do not have to excuse Karma to me ... I have no complaint with Karma or her quirky humour. It was Zan that moaned about her wish to see an end to Denktash.

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8012&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ecevit+murderer&start=0

So Ecevit and Papadopoulos are comparable in your eyes!

...Thanks for showing your true colours Bir.

Your hero is a Turk that has destroyed Cyprus.

Tpap was the destroyer not Ecevit.....Long before Ecevit...

[zan]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

The fact that people have expressed their joy at the news of a death of a human being is something different that this forum has not really experienced before.

The people that have come forward with these posts should expect a different approach from now on even by some the moderates.

DT, just ignore them. They are unknown names behind a keyboard.

Angry unknown names that are frustrated that he will be flapping his Blue and white wings in Greek heaven while the rest of us still suffer his actions. What a legacy.

Have you finished your champagne Zan?

Anger makes it hard to swallow Deniz.......

You have always come accross as a compassionate person Zan. Be generous with your compassion and your champagne will go down well.

I am struggling with my better self on this one Deniz and I am not afraid to say it.........When the anger dies then I will feel bad but at the moment I have Tpap on one side of the scale and thousands of dead Cypriots and a little 3 year old kid sitting in an attic waiting for the Greeks to attack with only stones to hurl out of the window, on the other.......

Ok, Zan. I give in on this one but there is a time and place or another thread in the coming.

You are right Deniz and I did try to stay away from this thread...Also, I am not blaming you for being angry at me......

Dont be so soft Zan. We have free expression on this forum. (mostly). We are not afraid of expressing ourselves.

Make up your bloody mind.......Do you want me to say what I think about Tpap or not

[BirKibrisli]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

You can use the bottle of champagne, I am going to open, to wash out the stains....

Well done Zan, openng a bottle of champagne to celebrate a death. You've really made an effort there.

Perhaps you should go back and read all the posts when Ecevit or Denktas was mentioned.........Where were you then......Sipping Cyprus wines maybe???

Your imagination is wrecking havoc with your excuses ... Yes Zan go back over the thread and you will see, not a single person mentioned Ecevit and the only one who mentioned Denktash was ...... Karma!

Do yourself a favour,Oracle,and search for some of the threads where Ecevit's name has been mentioned....Even you might be ashamed of some of the comments there...

Karma tries to make light of most things....It is her way of dissipating tension and promoting good-will...She doesn't always succeed,but she always means well...Trust me,I know...

I am not interested in Turks like Ecevit (he is your hero not mine, or of any other CYPRIOT!). But I certainly would not delight in death-wishes.

You cannot justify what has been said about a dying man by asserting to some pasts posts on a Turk who killed thousands of Cypriots and destroyed our island ... Besides, they remain gossip as neither you nor Zan can find anything equivalent to what has gone on here!

You also do not have to excuse Karma to me ... I have no complaint with Karma or her quirky humour. It was Zan that moaned about her wish to see an end to Denktash.

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8012&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ecevit+murderer&start=0

So Ecevit and Papadopoulos are comparable in your eyes!

...Thanks for showing your true colours Bir.

Your hero is a Turk that has destroyed Cyprus.

I never said Ecevit was my hero,Oracle...
The only thing showing here is your hypocrisy...
I take it that you had a good look at the link I gave you and approved the comments made by GCs about Ecevit...That makes you an embittered human pygmy...

[Oracle]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

You can use the bottle of champagne, I am going to open, to wash out the stains....

Well done Zan, openng a bottle of champagne to celebrate a death. You've really made an effort there.

Perhaps you should go back and read all the posts when Ecevit or Denktas was mentioned.........Where were you then......Sipping Cyprus wines maybe???

Your imagination is wrecking havoc with your excuses ... Yes Zan go back over the thread and you will see, not a single person mentioned Ecevit and the only one who mentioned Denktash was ...... Karma!

Do yourself a favour,Oracle,and search for some of the threads where Ecevit's name has been mentioned....Even you might be ashamed of some of the comments there...

Karma tries to make light of most things....It is her way of dissipating tension and promoting good-will...She doesn't always succeed,but she always means well...Trust me,I know...

I am not interested in Turks like Ecevit (he is your hero not mine, or of any other CYPRIOT!). But I certainly would not delight in death-wishes.

You cannot justify what has been said about a dying man by asserting to some pasts posts on a Turk who killed thousands of Cypriots and destroyed our island ... Besides, they remain gossip as neither you nor Zan can find anything equivalent to what has gone on here!

You also do not have to excuse Karma to me ... I have no complaint with Karma or her quirky humour. It was Zan that moaned about her wish to see an end to Denktash.

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8012&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ecevit+murderer&start=0

So Ecevit and Papadopoulos are comparable in your eyes!

...Thanks for showing your true colours Bir.

Your hero is a Turk that has destroyed Cyprus.

I never said Ecevit was my hero,Oracle...
The only thing showing here is your hypocrisy...
I take it that you had a good look at the link I gave you and approved the comments made by GCs about Ecevit...That makes you an embittered human pygmy...

Sorry there is no equivalence ... which is what was being debated, since Zan wrongfully tried to justify his sick comment.

Ecevit was a Turk who destroyed Cyprus, and then died!

What has that got to do with Papadopoulos who is a Cypriot ex-President ..... and he is ill now!

[Piratis]

Kyprianos was an Ottoman subject. Did he behave like one?

We are the subjects of nobody and we will never behave like that. The criminals are those who want to impose their rule over Cyprus and Cypriots, not the Cypriots that want their freedom on their own island.

.But you have to realise that for most TCs the demand for Enosis and the efforts of the EOKA to bring it about are anathema... Your failure to grasp this point is unfortunate.

Who said I don't realize this? The TCs benefit (half taxes, more powers, privileges etc) from having Cyprus under the rule of Ottomans/Turks and for this reason the freedom of Cyprus is an anathema for them.

TPap is a murderer and the author of the Akritas plan in which all eventualities were taken care of....Either trick the TCs and the world into submission or wipe out the TCs when we are sure that Turkey will not come. Thabnk heavens we had some friends in the world or we would not be here to argue the point with these purveyors of murder and destruction...

You are a murder, not Papadopoulos. The "Akritas plan" is nothing more than an anonymous document which talks [b]only[b] about how the Cypriots would get back their rights which have been denied to them by the Turkish-British collaboration against Cyprus. Nothing more than that.

[zan]

DT??? DT???? Where are you????
See what you have started????
And the Man isnt even dead yet...
I can only hope he never dies....Or there will be bloodbath in CF...

You can use the bottle of champagne, I am going to open, to wash out the stains....

Well done Zan, openng a bottle of champagne to celebrate a death. You've really made an effort there.

Perhaps you should go back and read all the posts when Ecevit or Denktas was mentioned.........Where were you then......Sipping Cyprus wines maybe???

Your imagination is wrecking havoc with your excuses ... Yes Zan go back over the thread and you will see, not a single person mentioned Ecevit and the only one who mentioned Denktash was ...... Karma!

Do yourself a favour,Oracle,and search for some of the threads where Ecevit's name has been mentioned....Even you might be ashamed of some of the comments there...

Karma tries to make light of most things....It is her way of dissipating tension and promoting good-will...She doesn't always succeed,but she always means well...Trust me,I know...

I am not interested in Turks like Ecevit (he is your hero not mine, or of any other CYPRIOT!). But I certainly would not delight in death-wishes.

You cannot justify what has been said about a dying man by asserting to some pasts posts on a Turk who killed thousands of Cypriots and destroyed our island ... Besides, they remain gossip as neither you nor Zan can find anything equivalent to what has gone on here!

You also do not have to excuse Karma to me ... I have no complaint with Karma or her quirky humour. It was Zan that moaned about her wish to see an end to Denktash.

Perhaps you will reconsider your statement above if you take a good look at this thread,Oracle..


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=8012&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ecevit+murderer&start=0

So Ecevit and Papadopoulos are comparable in your eyes!

...Thanks for showing your true colours Bir.

Your hero is a Turk that has destroyed Cyprus.

I never said Ecevit was my hero,Oracle...
The only thing showing here is your hypocrisy...
I take it that you had a good look at the link I gave you and approved the comments made by GCs about Ecevit...That makes you an embittered human pygmy...

Sorry there is no equivalence ... which is what was being debated, since Zan wrongfully tried to justify his sick comment.

Ecevit was a Turk who destroyed Cyprus, and then died!

What has that got to do with Papadopoulos who is a Cypriot ex-President ..... and he is ill now!

He is the "RoC" ex-president....after he destroyed Cyprus he could not rule over the whole........Author of the Akritas plan and collaborator with Greece to kill Makarios...Only you and other mainland Greeks like you would appreciate him...

[Piratis]

Author of the Akritas plan and collaborator with Greece to kill Makarios

You are clueless. Papadopoulos was one of Makarios closest partners.