NIKITAS Wrote:
Mr H is trying to drive us crazy again!
OK, the Yugoslavian settlement was promoted to STOP ETHNIC CLEANSING not to to encourage it. The divisions were based on PRE EXISTING ethnic divisions. The rights to property and residence are NOT affected. In fact they are expressly guaranteed. Now go back and read the details.
Slovakia was a voluntary divisions among historically predefined areas and people.
Now tell us why the Yugoslav model should not be imposed on southeastern Turkey in the way it was done in Kossovo.
Nik,
I would like to amplify on a few of the points you made in the above post, as I believe that in the name of our Independence, the Yugoslavian Model is a truly likeliness of the Cyprus issue - particularly our past, and not only what can happen in the future if the Greek Cypriots continue their Domination fo the island policy! Even the International community now know how much BS the Greek Cypriots have hidden under their teeth by their constant refusal to work under a time frame.
You said:
the divisions were based on PRE EXISTING ethnic divisions.
Between 1960-1974, were our Turkish and Greek Schools ever "Mixed"? Of course not! Were our Villages ever truly "Mixed", again, of course not. What's amazing with some of the "Young" Turkish Cypriot Liberal forces of today is that they did not actually live in those 1960-1974 times, they did not witness or experience the NEED to live within their "Turkish", or "Greek" Circles only. We did not share the same schools, both of our communities felt safer to live in our own respective villages. And, when we did try to push for promotion to a higher office, let's say our Vice President's position to hold the position of President of the island (under a rotation), the Greek Cypriots naturally felt it unacceptable and decided to once again TEACH us the truth about being a MINORITY.
In answer to your quote, Cyprus was very much an ISLAND with PRE-Existed divisions, where the Greek and Turkish peoples of Cyprus never REALLY "LIVED" together, attended the same schools (happily), preferred to live in "Turkish" or "Greek" populated villages only. If you accumulate all of the original "Turkish" Populated villages and combine them into one land mass, I would say that the island was always destined for separation at a higher level.
Why is it so hard to follow the "Independent" and "Success" example of other peoples around the world? President Talat has expressed our desire in very simple words - We want a VIRGIN BIRTH based on TWO FOUNDING STATES if it is to be a Respective "FEDERAL" formula, otherwise it's got to be Partition - It's the only safest option - as there's as much trust between the TCs and GCs as the Koyote and the Road Runner!
If Cyprus is Partition into TWO Greek and Turkish Cypriot Republic States - WHAT WILL THAT HAVE TO DO WITH TURKEY!!!! Turkey, as always, will only act as a Guarantor Country - Period! Nothing More! Unlike Britain, Turkey has not claimed two huge "Sovereign" areas and is refusing its negotiation.
Turkey is simply "
Supporting" the Turkish Cypriot struggle in setting its permanent independence (Under UN agreement) as a partner people on the island - nothing more (It's our Constitutional right under the 1960 agreement)! Turkey's so-called prolonged stay in Northern Cyprus is only due to Greek Cypriot reluctance in seeking the realities on the island.
