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[Get Real!]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

[zan]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

Is the enemy you are referring to as, the TCs GR....All except one or two maybe.....You wouldn't want your sister to marry one though!!!

[Get Real!]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

Is the enemy you are referring to as, the TCs GR....All except one or two maybe.....You wouldn't want your sister to marry one though!!!

If you look anything like your avatar I wouldn’t want my dog to marry you…

[zan]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

Is the enemy you are referring to as, the TCs GR....All except one or two maybe.....You wouldn't want your sister to marry one though!!!

If you look anything like your avatar I wouldn’t want my dog to marry you…

YEH! I look just like my avatar........Your dog is safe!

Now how about you answering the question?

[Get Real!]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

Is the enemy you are referring to as, the TCs GR....All except one or two maybe.....You wouldn't want your sister to marry one though!!!

If you look anything like your avatar I wouldn’t want my dog to marry you…

YEH! I look just like my avatar........Your dog is safe!

Just as well I don't have one...

Now how about you answering the question?

How can I possibly remember what happened 35 years ago? As if anything significant happened...

[Byron]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

It takes a fool to know a fool

[zan]

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

You’ll have to excuse Byron, he’s still roaming the Pendadactylos range looking for the enemy 35 years on. Nobody ever told the fool of the ceasefire…

Is the enemy you are referring to as, the TCs GR....All except one or two maybe.....You wouldn't want your sister to marry one though!!!

If you look anything like your avatar I wouldn’t want my dog to marry you…

YEH! I look just like my avatar........Your dog is safe!

Just as well I don't have one...

Now how about you answering the question?

How can I possibly remember what happened 35 years ago? As if anything significant happened...

And yet you poo poo all that can remember.........How clever you are...

[Kikapu]

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

Then we agree VP, that the "trnc" does not have what it takes to be a state like all other independent states around the world who are self sufficient entities built by their own people over time who has earned recognition and respect of the world body, the UN, and not because a foreign army which is the sole foundation of it's existence, as the "trnc" is. One day Turkey's priorities will change once again, and at that time, you will have learned not to have relied on sitting on a "one legged stool" for the survival of the "trnc".

If Turkey wanted for the Annan Plan 2004 to fail, they would not have removed Denktash from power, so what Denktash says or does not say after the fact, is totally meaningless, because he is even more far right than all you NeoPartitionist. Denktash only cares after No 1, himself. He had no interest for any kind of a settlement, and his 30+ years of playing the role of a dictatorial President is the proof, while the good TC's were forced to accept living under a "corrupted society" that he created.

Then we have to fight for the right to survive just like any other country, we must remove those elements which stop us from growing and standing on our own 2 feet namely the inhumane isolation imposed and maintained by the despot GC stance, with no solution this is all we can work for and show the world that this is not what we deserve, we to have the right to live and develop just like any other people.

No one can disagree with you as to what each nation must do to survive VP, but you also have to understand, that we also have to live by International laws to protect nations and it's people from others when ever possible, which the UN plays a leading role in overseeing that the International laws are respected, and when they are not respected, then actions are taken towards those that break those laws by imposing isolation, embargoes and non recognition of self declared states created by force on others land after first ethnically cleansing the indigenous inhabitants of those lands. The "trnc" seems to fall into all of those categories and unless the RoC agrees to have them lifted, you are stuck with them. The RoC is not going to remove them unless there are incentives for them. The question for you is, what are you offering the RoC to ask the UN to have all these restrictions put on the "trnc" to be removed.?

[Viewpoint]

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

Then we agree VP, that the "trnc" does not have what it takes to be a state like all other independent states around the world who are self sufficient entities built by their own people over time who has earned recognition and respect of the world body, the UN, and not because a foreign army which is the sole foundation of it's existence, as the "trnc" is. One day Turkey's priorities will change once again, and at that time, you will have learned not to have relied on sitting on a "one legged stool" for the survival of the "trnc".

If Turkey wanted for the Annan Plan 2004 to fail, they would not have removed Denktash from power, so what Denktash says or does not say after the fact, is totally meaningless, because he is even more far right than all you NeoPartitionist. Denktash only cares after No 1, himself. He had no interest for any kind of a settlement, and his 30+ years of playing the role of a dictatorial President is the proof, while the good TC's were forced to accept living under a "corrupted society" that he created.

Then we have to fight for the right to survive just like any other country, we must remove those elements which stop us from growing and standing on our own 2 feet namely the inhumane isolation imposed and maintained by the despot GC stance, with no solution this is all we can work for and show the world that this is not what we deserve, we to have the right to live and develop just like any other people.

No one can disagree with you as to what each nation must do to survive VP, but you also have to understand, that we also have to live by International laws to protect nations and it's people from others when ever possible, which the UN plays a leading role in overseeing that the International laws are respected, and when they are not respected, then actions are taken towards those that break those laws by imposing isolation, embargoes and non recognition of self declared states created by force on others land after first ethnically cleansing the indigenous inhabitants of those lands. The "trnc" seems to fall into all of those categories and unless the RoC agrees to have them lifted, you are stuck with them. The RoC is not going to remove them unless there are incentives for them. The question for you is, what are you offering the RoC to ask the UN to have all these restrictions put on the "trnc" to be removed.?

An obvious and clear understanding that it is the GCs who do not want a solution and will not compromise (eg rejection of the AP) to accomadate the TCs, coupled with a return of land and a right to return and compensation as incentives for GCs.

We can no longer be shut out and the last 4 years have for us shown a lot of progress with regards to an easing of isolation, this with the help of the intrangient GC stance and no future solution will fuel the every increasing ideology that TCs have done nothing wrong why are they being punished in 2008 2009 2010 etc....we are in for the long haul what ever it takes.

[Kifeas]

Well, VP, wait until you see the new UN resolution on Cyprus that is just about going to be passed on, and you will see what it says about isolation and the rest of your babblers!