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[Viewpoint]

Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of,

Stronger and stronger in crime… yesterday a few more Syrians were led to the dead zone only for them to land on a mine and blow themselves to pieces. Such is the stupidity of your people!

Killing Syrians for a few bucks has become the latest Turkish Cypriot specialty…

Thought all mines had been cleared? this is a tragedy and those responsible should be brought to justice but whats that got to do with what we are discussing?

[zan]

Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of,

Stronger and stronger in crime… yesterday a few more Syrians were led to the dead zone only for them to land on a mine and blow themselves to pieces. Such is the stupidity of your people!

Killing Syrians for a few bucks has become the latest Turkish Cypriot specialty…

If you were to pack up all your criminals and send them away you wouldn't have a government left you fool!!!

[Kikapu]

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

Then we agree VP, that the "trnc" does not have what it takes to be a state like all other independent states around the world who are self sufficient entities built by their own people over time who has earned recognition and respect of the world body, the UN, and not because a foreign army which is the sole foundation of it's existence, as the "trnc" is. One day Turkey's priorities will change once again, and at that time, you will have learned not to have relied on sitting on a "one legged stool" for the survival of the "trnc".

If Turkey wanted for the Annan Plan 2004 to fail, they would not have removed Denktash from power, so what Denktash says or does not say after the fact, is totally meaningless, because he is even more far right than all you NeoPartitionist. Denktash only cares after No 1, himself. He had no interest for any kind of a settlement, and his 30+ years of playing the role of a dictatorial President is the proof, while the good TC's were forced to accept living under a "corrupted society" that he created.

[zan]

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

Then we agree VP, that the "trnc" does not have what it takes to be a state like all other independent states around the world who are self sufficient entities built by their own people over time who has earned recognition and respect of the world body, the UN, and not because a foreign army which is the sole foundation of it's existence, as the "trnc" is. One day Turkey's priorities will change once again, and at that time, you will learn not to have relied on sitting on a "one legged stool" for the survival of the "trnc".

If Turkey wanted for the Annan Plan 2004 to fail, they would not have removed Denktash from power, so what Denktash says or does not say after the fact, is totally meaningless, because he is even more far right than all you NeoPartitionist. Denktash only cares after No 1, himself. He had no interest for any kind of a settlement, and his 30+ years of playing the role of a dictatorial President is the proof, while the good TC's were forced to accept living under a "corrupted society" that he created.

What a crock of shit you talk be Kikapu.......

We survive under embargoes and isolation since 1963 and instead of commending your supposed people for their resilience you try to convince the world that we are a bunch of masochists that had it all and chose to live like we did.....What a moron!!!! Rather than the sadistic Greeks sucking our blood and the Turks plugging us into what little blood they had left you see it in your own distorted way......FFS

[Byron]

[/ Kifeas quote]

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all![/quote]

Kifeas you are advocating for a solution within the ROC however according to Viewpoint the vast majority of Turks do not wish to adopt this type of solution but in turn prefer union with Turkey. Now, if that is the wish of the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots then we Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots living in the legal part of the ROC have a problem. What do we do ? Continue to negotiate on the same existing terms i.e. -the re-instatement of the ROC? Should we abandon the talks? or maybe sit back and do nothing ? What is our second proposition or don't we have one? Instead of playing charades on this forum please explain what the alternatives are for the Greek Cypriots. I am interested to know as otherwise in 50 years time we shall all be here discussing the same silly things. I wish for the discussions to go forward and I would like to hear your views and others as to what is our fall back position.

[Viewpoint]

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

Then we agree VP, that the "trnc" does not have what it takes to be a state like all other independent states around the world who are self sufficient entities built by their own people over time who has earned recognition and respect of the world body, the UN, and not because a foreign army which is the sole foundation of it's existence, as the "trnc" is. One day Turkey's priorities will change once again, and at that time, you will have learned not to have relied on sitting on a "one legged stool" for the survival of the "trnc".

If Turkey wanted for the Annan Plan 2004 to fail, they would not have removed Denktash from power, so what Denktash says or does not say after the fact, is totally meaningless, because he is even more far right than all you NeoPartitionist. Denktash only cares after No 1, himself. He had no interest for any kind of a settlement, and his 30+ years of playing the role of a dictatorial President is the proof, while the good TC's were forced to accept living under a "corrupted society" that he created.

Then we have to fight for the right to survive just like any other country, we must remove those elements which stop us from growing and standing on our own 2 feet namely the inhumane isolation imposed and maintained by the despot GC stance, with no solution this is all we can work for and show the world that this is not what we deserve, we to have the right to live and develop just like any other people.

[Kifeas]

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

Kifeas you are advocating for a solution within the ROC however according to Viewpoint the vast majority of Turks do not wish to adopt this type of solution but in turn prefer union with Turkey. Now, if that is the wish of the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots then we Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots living in the legal part of the ROC have a problem. What do we do ? Continue to negotiate on the same existing terms i.e. -the re-instatement of the ROC? Should we abandon the talks? or maybe sit back and do nothing ? What is our second proposition or don't we have one? Instead of playing charades on this forum please explain what the alternatives are for the Greek Cypriots. I am interested to know as otherwise in 50 years time we shall all be here discussing the same silly things. I wish for the discussions to go forward and I would like to hear your views and others as to what is our fall back position.

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

[zan]

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

Kifeas you are advocating for a solution within the ROC however according to Viewpoint the vast majority of Turks do not wish to adopt this type of solution but in turn prefer union with Turkey. Now, if that is the wish of the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots then we Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots living in the legal part of the ROC have a problem. What do we do ? Continue to negotiate on the same existing terms i.e. -the re-instatement of the ROC? Should we abandon the talks? or maybe sit back and do nothing ? What is our second proposition or don't we have one? Instead of playing charades on this forum please explain what the alternatives are for the Greek Cypriots. I am interested to know as otherwise in 50 years time we shall all be here discussing the same silly things. I wish for the discussions to go forward and I would like to hear your views and others as to what is our fall back position.

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

1963.....If you are a Cypriot then you should know what to do to these Turkish Cypriots

So many people claiming to be THE "Cypriot"...

[Byron]

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

Kifeas you are advocating for a solution within the ROC however according to Viewpoint the vast majority of Turks do not wish to adopt this type of solution but in turn prefer union with Turkey. Now, if that is the wish of the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots then we Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots living in the legal part of the ROC have a problem. What do we do ? Continue to negotiate on the same existing terms i.e. -the re-instatement of the ROC? Should we abandon the talks? or maybe sit back and do nothing ? What is our second proposition or don't we have one? Instead of playing charades on this forum please explain what the alternatives are for the Greek Cypriots. I am interested to know as otherwise in 50 years time we shall all be here discussing the same silly things. I wish for the discussions to go forward and I would like to hear your views and others as to what is our fall back position.

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

Please kindly refer me to your post ( or thread ) so that I can read it, thank you. Only joined last month so it is not possible to read all the posts.

[zan]

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

Kifeas you are advocating for a solution within the ROC however according to Viewpoint the vast majority of Turks do not wish to adopt this type of solution but in turn prefer union with Turkey. Now, if that is the wish of the vast majority of Turkish Cypriots then we Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots living in the legal part of the ROC have a problem. What do we do ? Continue to negotiate on the same existing terms i.e. -the re-instatement of the ROC? Should we abandon the talks? or maybe sit back and do nothing ? What is our second proposition or don't we have one? Instead of playing charades on this forum please explain what the alternatives are for the Greek Cypriots. I am interested to know as otherwise in 50 years time we shall all be here discussing the same silly things. I wish for the discussions to go forward and I would like to hear your views and others as to what is our fall back position.

Byron, I already answered the above question, not too long ago, in another thread! If you are a Cypriot, you shouldn't have made these questions, for you should have known the answerers yourself and beforehand!

Please kindly refer me to your post ( or thread ) so that I can read it, thank you. Only joined last month so it is not possible to read all the posts.

Strike two, Byron.......He will now tell you that anyone that has not been fighting for the GREEKS FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS IS NOT A CYPRIOT!!!