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[Kifeas]

No thats never going to happen, shes going to realise that she cant afford to keep the TRNC one day and just take its army over night and move out leaving the TC's behind. LOL. If anything these court decisions are bad news as it only resolves our will that any solution like the annan plan removes a persons right to appeal to the ECHR.

I suppose by this you mean that you only aim at a solution that will fuck the people's human (and other legal and legitimate) rights, for the sake of fulfilling your irredentist and warped national aspirations. "Good luck" in your "endeavours" to convince the rest of the world that you are the constructive side in solving the Cyprus issue, and the one that should not be punished for the lack of it! You just proved that you deserve every little bit of isolation and impoverishment you "enjoy" all these years!

This is preferred to living under a GC state.

Is this the only slogan you have learned to say, VP, or you have some more to offer?

I have lots to offer Kifeas but sometimes a few words mean more than paragraphs of empty words, TCs will not give up the TRNC to live as just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, do you understand this?

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

[Viewpoint]

No thats never going to happen, shes going to realise that she cant afford to keep the TRNC one day and just take its army over night and move out leaving the TC's behind. LOL. If anything these court decisions are bad news as it only resolves our will that any solution like the annan plan removes a persons right to appeal to the ECHR.

I suppose by this you mean that you only aim at a solution that will fuck the people's human (and other legal and legitimate) rights, for the sake of fulfilling your irredentist and warped national aspirations. "Good luck" in your "endeavours" to convince the rest of the world that you are the constructive side in solving the Cyprus issue, and the one that should not be punished for the lack of it! You just proved that you deserve every little bit of isolation and impoverishment you "enjoy" all these years!

This is preferred to living under a GC state.

Is this the only slogan you have learned to say, VP, or you have some more to offer?

I have lots to offer Kifeas but sometimes a few words mean more than paragraphs of empty words, TCs will not give up the TRNC to live as just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, do you understand this?

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

The TRNC recognized or not was born out of a chain of mistakes which included your own, it will remain unless those wrongs can be addressed and solved to a degree where both sides can commit to union via a BBF with political equality. Otherwise we will defend and continue to live in 37% of the island which is our home, you were not wise enough to share mixed with us hence the division which you cannot deny has brought you stability and prosperity. Don't expect us to throw away what we have experienced to live amongst GCs under their rule, a BBF is on the table today due to past mistakes, if you are not for it then you leaders should stop lieing to the world and declare they only want a solution based on their own demands and nothing else.

[wallace]

No thats never going to happen, shes going to realise that she cant afford to keep the TRNC one day and just take its army over night and move out leaving the TC's behind. LOL. If anything these court decisions are bad news as it only resolves our will that any solution like the annan plan removes a persons right to appeal to the ECHR.

I suppose by this you mean that you only aim at a solution that will fuck the people's human (and other legal and legitimate) rights, for the sake of fulfilling your irredentist and warped national aspirations. "Good luck" in your "endeavours" to convince the rest of the world that you are the constructive side in solving the Cyprus issue, and the one that should not be punished for the lack of it! You just proved that you deserve every little bit of isolation and impoverishment you "enjoy" all these years!

This is preferred to living under a GC state.

Is this the only slogan you have learned to say, VP, or you have some more to offer?

I have lots to offer Kifeas but sometimes a few words mean more than paragraphs of empty words, TCs will not give up the TRNC to live as just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, do you understand this?

VP, we are not asking you to "give up" the "TRNC," because we want you to live as just another minority in a "GC state run by GCs!" We are asking you to give up the "TRNC," because it is an illegal and illegitimate entity, created in violation of international law and in violation of the area's majority of indigenous people's human rights! We are only asking you to live under a RoC, run by and for its own people -including yourselves, in full protection of each and every citizen's human and civil rights, and each community's cultural and social rights!

PS: And if you are going to come up with just another one of your empty slogans, you better not answer at all!

The TRNC recognized or not was born out of a chain of mistakes which included your own, it will remain unless those wrongs can be addressed and solved to a degree where both sides can commit to union via a BBF with political equality. Otherwise we will defend and continue to live in 37% of the island which is our home, you were not wise enough to share mixed with us hence the division which you cannot deny has brought you stability and prosperity. Don't expect us to throw away what we have experienced to live amongst GCs under their rule, a BBF is on the table today due to past mistakes, if you are not for it then you leaders should stop lieing to the world and declare they only want a solution based on their own demands and nothing else.

We are for it! Are you for it though??? You plonkers just want your own state. I'll help you out of your dreams. It's not going to happen And your so called TRNC is not recognised....so why even bring that up? And your not living in your homes....they were stolen you silly man

[Viewpoint]

And we are looking after them just in case we can agree a solution but they wont last forever just like ours have been raised to the ground in the GC south. You conveniently forget that we to have lost our homes both in 1963 and 1974. Get used to it BBF with political eqaulity is the only solution on offer nothing else.

[wallace]

And we are looking after them just in case we can agree a solution but they wont last forever just like ours have been raised to the ground in the GC south. You conveniently forget that we to have lost our homes both in 1963 and 1974. Get used to it BBF with political eqaulity is the only solution on offer nothing else.

I'd rather have you give it back to me and I'll make sure that you're treated equal like any human in the EU. You move to the south and get your home back. Can I do the same???? I agree with your political eqaulity like it is all over the world. 1 man 1 vote......don't ask me to give you more rights then I have. Can you agree on that?

[Oracle]

ECHR dismisses Turkish appeal on refugee case

THE EUROPEAN Court of Human Rights (ECHR) yesterday dismissed Turkey’s appeal in the Demades case and called on Ankara to pay over €800,000 in compensation.

Turkey had asked the ECHR to re-examine its April decision on the Demades vs Turkey case but was turned down, rendering the court’s decision final. Instead, Ankara was instructed to pay €830,000 to the applicant for compensation plus interest, as well as €5,000 for court expenses.

Commenting on the decision, refugee Ioannis Demades’ lawyer Achilleas Demetriades said the ECHR had taken a “significant step” in reaffirming that the owner of property in the Turkish occupied areas remains the person whose name appears on the deeds.

He added that the compensation ordered by the ECHR does not deny the owner of his property but is merely compensation for loss of use.

The ECHR decision was given to the parties in writing and renders the April 22 decision final, since the Court dismissed Turkey’s demand to re-examine the specific decision.

In April, the ECHR gave Turkey three months to pay €835,000 to Demades for the loss of use of his property in occupied Kyrenia.

The Fourth Section of the ECHR ordered Turkey to pay the applicant in the case Demades v. Turkey within three months the comprehensive sums of €785,000 in respect of pecuniary damage, €45,000 in respect of non pecuniary damage and €5,000 in respect of costs and expenses.

The Court recalled that in its principle judgment it found Turkey guilty of continuous violations of the European Convention of Human Rights by reason of complete denial of the rights of the applicant with respect to his home and the peaceful enjoyment of his property in Kyrenia.

It added that its finding of a violation of the applicant’s rights with respect to his home and the peaceful enjoyment of his property was based on the fact that as a consequence of being continuously denied access to his land since 1974 the applicant had effectively lost all access and control as well as all possibilities to use and enjoy his property.

Displaced Greek Cypriots like Demades cannot be deemed to have lost title to their property, and compensation to be awarded by this Court in such cases is confined to losses emanating from the denial of access and loss of control, use and enjoyment of his property, the decision adds.

Demades, who died in 2006, submitted his application against Turkey in 1990. His heirs pursued the application later on.

The decision was held by six votes to one. The Turkish Cypriot judge, representing Turkey, voted against the decision.

Demades’ home, a two storey house with garden near the sea, is now occupied by a high ranking Turkish army officer. The whole area around the house is a Turkish military zone.


Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008

Here's a clear example of the blinkered bias of the Turkish Cypriot judge working for Turkey ... Disgusting lack of ethics!

[Kikapu]

No thats never going to happen, shes going to realise that she cant afford to keep the TRNC one day and just take its army over night and move out leaving the TC's behind. LOL. If anything these court decisions are bad news as it only resolves our will that any solution like the annan plan removes a persons right to appeal to the ECHR.

I suppose by this you mean that you only aim at a solution that will fuck the people's human (and other legal and legitimate) rights, for the sake of fulfilling your irredentist and warped national aspirations. "Good luck" in your "endeavours" to convince the rest of the world that you are the constructive side in solving the Cyprus issue, and the one that should not be punished for the lack of it! You just proved that you deserve every little bit of isolation and impoverishment you "enjoy" all these years!

This is preferred to living under a GC state.

Is this the only slogan you have learned to say, VP, or you have some more to offer?

I have lots to offer Kifeas but sometimes a few words mean more than paragraphs of empty words, TCs will not give up the TRNC to live as just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, do you understand this?

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

[Viewpoint]

No thats never going to happen, shes going to realise that she cant afford to keep the TRNC one day and just take its army over night and move out leaving the TC's behind. LOL. If anything these court decisions are bad news as it only resolves our will that any solution like the annan plan removes a persons right to appeal to the ECHR.

I suppose by this you mean that you only aim at a solution that will fuck the people's human (and other legal and legitimate) rights, for the sake of fulfilling your irredentist and warped national aspirations. "Good luck" in your "endeavours" to convince the rest of the world that you are the constructive side in solving the Cyprus issue, and the one that should not be punished for the lack of it! You just proved that you deserve every little bit of isolation and impoverishment you "enjoy" all these years!

This is preferred to living under a GC state.

Is this the only slogan you have learned to say, VP, or you have some more to offer?

I have lots to offer Kifeas but sometimes a few words mean more than paragraphs of empty words, TCs will not give up the TRNC to live as just another minority in a GC state run by GCs, do you understand this?

If Turkey was to pull out it's troops from the "trnc", the "trnc" won't last more than 5 minutes, VP. The whole existence of the "trnc" is the 40,000 Turkish Troops, because it does not have any foundations to support any part of it's existence. You tell us how the "trnc" will survive more than 5 minutes without the Turkish Troops in the north, then I will believe in what you say, that the TC's will not give up the "trnc".

You are right thank god for Turkey and her troops. Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of, but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock. The only opportunity the GCs has to get rid of the Turkish army they voted no Denktaş senior thanks them for that all the time.

[Oracle]

.... but dont worry looks like Turkey is not going away anytime soon as the talks head for another deadlock.

..... why do you even bother?

Pretence ....

[Get Real!]

Allowed the opportunity by removing isolation the TRNC will become stronger and stronger thats what you are afraid of,

Stronger and stronger in crime… yesterday a few more Syrians were led to the dead zone only for them to land on a mine and blow themselves to pieces. Such is the stupidity of your people!

Killing Syrians for a few bucks has become the latest Turkish Cypriot specialty…