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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:57 pm

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No they still speak Turkish but it has not turned Germany into Turkey has it? You are a bastardized race due to numerous conquerers passing through who have diluted your origins but that does not mean that speaking Greek turned this island into a Greek island it has never been that and it will never be.


Maybe the Cyprob has to do with only the misinterpretation of numbers and not religion then. THE MAJORITY ALWAYS WAS GREEK VP. Now if you doubt that, its your problem. But in this civilized world that I live in, they all agree with me on this. So stop waiting for the world to bend to Turkeys ways in the majority department, because they're not going to change the norm for ignorant Turks.


Cyprus has never been Greek never will be end of story. Now if you say its Cypriot and that the majority speak Greek then I can agree with you but otherwise you have a lot of growing up to do.
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Postby growuptcs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:04 am

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Cyprus has never been Greek never will be end of story. Now if you say its Cypriot and that the majority speak Greek then I can agree with you but otherwise you have a lot of growing up to do.


VP, you set a trap and I fell in. Should I sign you over my rights now? See thats what this problem is all about and how it started. Because of assholes like you that keep the bullshit fresh. I wonder if you Turks do that to one another with these worded minefields that will always veer off the aim.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:07 am

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No they still speak Turkish but it has not turned Germany into Turkey has it? You are a bastardized race due to numerous conquerers passing through who have diluted your origins but that does not mean that speaking Greek turned this island into a Greek island it has never been that and it will never be.


Maybe the Cyprob has to do with only the misinterpretation of numbers and not religion then. THE MAJORITY ALWAYS WAS GREEK VP. Now if you doubt that, its your problem. But in this civilized world that I live in, they all agree with me on this. So stop waiting for the world to bend to Turkeys ways in the majority department, because they're not going to change the norm for ignorant Turks.

Had Muslims never been introduced to Cyprus; thereby causing a religious divide, there would've never been a need to call Cypriots "Greek Cypriots".

The name “Greek Cypriots” is a relatively recent coining that had everything to do with DIFFERENTIATING Christians from Muslims and nothing to do with their origins, because even if a million Mycenaeans were to arrive on the island in 1200BC (and they certainly did not in those numbers), they could have NEVER changed the indigenous people’s origins but rather acquired a “Mycenaean-Cypriot” status themselves! Greece did not even exist at this point btw.

Furthermore, to assume that all the indigenous Cypriots had simply “vanished” and that the imported Mycenaean-Cypriots had FULLY taken over the island is nothing but convenient and self-serving Greek speculation without a shred of evidence to back it!
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:17 am

growuptcs wrote:
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Cyprus has never been Greek never will be end of story. Now if you say its Cypriot and that the majority speak Greek then I can agree with you but otherwise you have a lot of growing up to do.


VP, you set a trap and I fell in. Should I sign you over my rights now? See thats what this problem is all about and how it started. Because of assholes like you that keep the bullshit fresh. I wonder if you Turks do that to one another with these worded minefields that will always veer off the aim.


What the hell are you talking about now? Your claiming that Cyprus is Greek will always stoke the flames of mistrust and hate between the 2 sides, I have the balls to say we are not Turks, we may originate from Turkey but this does not turn Cyprus into Turkey, you can think differently as that is your right but it doesnt mean you are right.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:24 am

Greece itself was never Greek before 1829 when the modern Greek state was established. Neither was Turkey Turkish till 1923 when Turkey was established.

So let us agree that the problem was solved in 1960 when Cyprus was established zs an independent state. Now do we all see the usefulness of keeping the RoC alive? It solves a whole bunch of non problems.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:27 am

Nikitas wrote:Greece itself was never Greek before 1829 when the modern Greek state was established. Neither was Turkey Turkish till 1923 when Turkey was established.

So let us agree that the problem was solved in 1960 when Cyprus was established zs an independent state. Now do we all see the usefulness of keeping the RoC alive? It solves a whole bunch of non problems.


So you agree Cyprus was never Greek or Greece.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:43 am

There are unwavering anthropological factors that determine the origin of a people and there’s not a government, war, coup, or treaty even, that can ever change it!
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Postby growuptcs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:48 am

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What the hell are you talking about now? Your claiming that Cyprus is Greek will always stoke the flames of mistrust and hate between the 2 sides, I have the balls to say we are not Turks, we may originate from Turkey but this does not turn Cyprus into Turkey, you can think differently as that is your right but it doesnt mean you are right.


I only claim propaganda from your side. Mistrust to me, means someone screwed me in some kind of way personally. A whole nation of Turks are trying to solidify my roots as their own, doesn't mean I'm out for every Turk individually. I'm letting nature take its course without violence because I'm not a Turk. But I will hope to see Cyprus liberated from the agressive minded Turks who pillaged my familys heritage in the north, in my lifetime.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 13, 2009 12:58 am

growuptcs wrote:
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What the hell are you talking about now? Your claiming that Cyprus is Greek will always stoke the flames of mistrust and hate between the 2 sides, I have the balls to say we are not Turks, we may originate from Turkey but this does not turn Cyprus into Turkey, you can think differently as that is your right but it doesnt mean you are right.


I only claim propaganda from your side. Mistrust to me, means someone screwed me in some kind of way personally. A whole nation of Turks are trying to solidify my roots as their own, doesn't mean I'm out for every Turk individually. I'm letting nature take its course without violence because I'm not a Turk. But I will hope to see Cyprus liberated from the agressive minded Turks who pillaged my familys heritage in the north, in my lifetime.


You will have all that you wish for just as soon as you accept as equal partners.
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Postby growuptcs » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:59 am

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You will have all that you wish for just as soon as you accept as equal partners.


This is not a business, its a country, VP. Your question of accepting you as equal partners is equivalent to me demanding to take one of your bedrooms in your house and I come and go as I please, while I scratch my balls and you can't say a word about it. Your rules aren't balanced, so put your footnotes away and lets get on the same page with the word balance and find a FAIR middle.
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