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[YFred]

So what you are saying is that TCs are so different from GCs, and basically incompatible with us? Why did Turks came to Cyprus then? Cyprus was already inhabited by a majority of Greek Cypriots when the Turks came.

Piratis...You are now distorting history...Turks never came to Cyprus...
The Ottomans came to Cyprus...They did not call themselves Turks..In fact the Turks were one of the oppressed minorities in the Ottoman empire for a long time...The people who ended up being called Turkish Cypriots have very little resemblance to the Turkic tribes which started to invade Anatolia around 900AD...Just look at us for God' sake...I challenge you to pick me out in a crowd of GCs as the TC....Especially if I shaved my moustache off... Biologically or genetically there is no difference between us....We are the same people....Our differences are in our heads...That simple and that complex....

We can never satisfy you Bir. In Greece they call them Muslims, they don't like it, they say they are Turks. I respect how you want to be called, and I call you Turkish. Again you don't like it!

I agree with you that biologically or genetically there is no difference between us. Genetics and biology was never the problem.

Your whole argument is based around genetics. You saying that we have no right to a part of our own country... Itttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttts plonker time!!!!

I never based any argument around genetics.

What you have no right for are the homes, land and property of other Cypriots. If there is one plonker here that is you.

GC's never did that. What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

[Get Real!]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks! I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

[Kikapu]

By the way VP, what was the other option other than the TC's wanting to live as a minority under a GC state.????

Could it be that you want the TC's to live as equals under a GC state.!!!

Which one of the above choices would you choose for yourself.??

Please clarify.!

[Viewpoint]

By the way VP, what was the other option other than the TC's wanting to live as a minority under a GC state.????

Could it be that you want the TC's to live as equals under a GC state.!!!

Which one of the above choices would you choose for yourself.??

Please clarify.!

The concern is not exactly being outnumbered but the way the majority will treat the minority and what safeguards will make sure they do the right thing, the past tells us GCs are not to be trusted with our well being or future, thats why the 1960 agreements were put in place and why today we still need a safety net. We cannot risk regretting taking this step forward leaving us exposed and at the mercy of the majority who can use their numbers to the detrement of TCs.

[BirKibrisli]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks! I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

The TC owner of the land was in the news some time ago...He was taking his case to some court or other,GR..Stop trying to make the Forum a test of who has more time and computer skills to search "credible evidence" for you...Only for you to turn around and say the source is not credible,if you don't like the contents....

Now,if you want to maintain your credibility as an honest searcher for the Truth in Cyprob,you will use your considerable computer skills and find the evidence to satisfy yourself...After that you might like to post it for us to see as well...There's a good man...

[BirKibrisli]

In more recent and more enlightened times people have been given the right to describe themselves in any way they want...If in Greece they want to be called Turks today and not Muslims,that should be their human right,don't you think???Why call them Muslims forcibly???

Probably the reason is that Greece is afraid that what happened in Cyprus could happen to them. One moment they are a "Muslim minority", the next they are a "Turkish minority", then they don't want to be a minority, they want to be partners with 50% power, trouble starts, Turkey invades Greece to "save her Turkish brothers", takes half of it, and then blames the Greeks for being Greek as the reason why all this happened.

But I agree with you that Greece should recognize those people as Turkish if that is how they want to be called.

Why do you insist on calling me Turkish??? If you or other GCs want to be called Greeks,I have no problem with that...it is your right...My point is simply that those who chose to call themselves Greek (or Turkish!) are repeating the same mistake as our parents and grand parents made back in the 50s...And two mistakes will certainly not help correct the present situation...It will make it worse...

Bir, I already explained it to you, but I will rephrase it: For me labels are not important, certainly not in the way that democracy or human rights are. If your dream could be feasible then I would follow you in the "Just Cypriot" democratic nation of no Turks or Greeks. OK?

What I am saying here, and please pay attention, is that the majority of TCs unlike you, want this separation because with this separation they can have a lot more (power/land) than they would have otherwise. So by giving up our Greenness we would gain nothing, and at the same time we would alienate our only close ally and make it easier for Turkey to pass her distorted history.

Fine,Piratis...You keep insisting on your Greekness which (along with our insistence of our Turkishness) brought us to the brink of Partition and see where that will take us....

If you think that Greece one day will go to war with Turkey so that you have your enforced "Democracy" all over Cyprus,and rub the noses of those bloody TCs into the dirt again as you did during 1964-74,you got another big shock waiting for you...

On parting from this argument I want to repeat that I am not asking you to deny your Greek heritage....Only to stop making it politically your primary occupation or weapon...Our ethnic origins should be an intrinsic,inseparable part of our being,like our gender and our colouring...
An accident of history and geography and biology...Not the only thing that defines your existence as a Cypriot...

[doesntmatter]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks!

Now that is what you call Greek Mythology.

I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

The Turkish Cypriot Property Management Service (TCPMS),
established in 1991, administers properties of Turkish
Cypriots who are not ordinarily residents of the
government-controlled area. This service acts as the
temporary custodian for such properties until termination
of division of the island. The TCPMS is mandated to
administer properties under its custodianship "in the
manner most beneficial for the owner." Furthermore,
ownership of Turkish Cypriot properties cannot change
(unless for inheritance purposes) except in exceptional
cases when this is regarded as beneficial for the owner or
necessary for the public interest. Compensation for
Turkish Cypriot property used for the public benefit, as in
the case of Larnaca airport or for highways, has been
suspended as long as the division of the island continues.

http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/ifd/2006/61974.htm

Will that shut you up now?

[BirKibrisli]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks!

Now that is what you call Greek Mythology.

I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

The Turkish Cypriot Property Management Service (TCPMS),
established in 1991, administers properties of Turkish
Cypriots who are not ordinarily residents of the
government-controlled area. This service acts as the
temporary custodian for such properties until termination
of division of the island. The TCPMS is mandated to
administer properties under its custodianship "in the
manner most beneficial for the owner." Furthermore,
ownership of Turkish Cypriot properties cannot change
(unless for inheritance purposes) except in exceptional
cases when this is regarded as beneficial for the owner or
necessary for the public interest. Compensation for
Turkish Cypriot property used for the public benefit, as in
the case of Larnaca airport or for highways, has been
suspended as long as the division of the island continues.

http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/ifd/2006/61974.htm

Will that shut you up now?

Nothing will shut GR! up,Mr Matter...
He will come and tell you that source is not credible...You just wait...

[doesntmatter]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks!

Now that is what you call Greek Mythology.

I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

The Turkish Cypriot Property Management Service (TCPMS),
established in 1991, administers properties of Turkish
Cypriots who are not ordinarily residents of the
government-controlled area. This service acts as the
temporary custodian for such properties until termination
of division of the island. The TCPMS is mandated to
administer properties under its custodianship "in the
manner most beneficial for the owner." Furthermore,
ownership of Turkish Cypriot properties cannot change
(unless for inheritance purposes) except in exceptional
cases when this is regarded as beneficial for the owner or
necessary for the public interest. Compensation for
Turkish Cypriot property used for the public benefit, as in
the case of Larnaca airport or for highways, has been
suspended as long as the division of the island continues.

http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/ifd/2006/61974.htm

Will that shut you up now?

Nothing will shut GR! up,Mr Matter...
He will come and tell you that source is not credible...You just wait...

I know, Mr Antimatter.

[BirKibrisli]

What is Larnaka airport built on my friend? I wonder if it belongs to a GC. Check the name on the deeds please.

When it comes to mythology the TCs have long surpassed the Greeks!

Now that is what you call Greek Mythology.

I’m still waiting for credible evidence to back that rumor...

The Turkish Cypriot Property Management Service (TCPMS),
established in 1991, administers properties of Turkish
Cypriots who are not ordinarily residents of the
government-controlled area. This service acts as the
temporary custodian for such properties until termination
of division of the island. The TCPMS is mandated to
administer properties under its custodianship "in the
manner most beneficial for the owner." Furthermore,
ownership of Turkish Cypriot properties cannot change
(unless for inheritance purposes) except in exceptional
cases when this is regarded as beneficial for the owner or
necessary for the public interest. Compensation for
Turkish Cypriot property used for the public benefit, as in
the case of Larnaca airport or for highways, has been
suspended as long as the division of the island continues.

http://www.state.gov/e/eeb/ifd/2006/61974.htm

Will that shut you up now?

Nothing will shut GR! up,Mr Matter...
He will come and tell you that source is not credible...You just wait...

I know, Mr Antimatter.

If you pick a Nick like doesntmatter,you should be prepared to cope with certain playful variations....I dont know if you know my real name,but if you do, Mr Antimatter is quite witty,i'll give you that...