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Do TCs want to live in a GC state as a minority?

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Postby utu » Fri Dec 12, 2008 11:12 pm

doesntmatter wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:A united cyprus would mean so much economically, a population of 1.0 million, no military spending the cover of Nato for protection, billions of barels of offshore petroleum, a very well educated population, no crime. A united cyprus could be the envy of the world.


And become a super power just like the USA. :lol:


A unitary state does not mean the marginalization of any minority, if the idea of an upper house/senate is acted upon. True, the lower house has to be purely democratic as per the actual population percentages, but having a senate made up of equal members of Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Marionite Cypriots, and Armenian Cypriots to vet all legiation and presidential executive orders will ensure the 'equal ethnic status' that is so important to you...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:41 am

utu wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:A united cyprus would mean so much economically, a population of 1.0 million, no military spending the cover of Nato for protection, billions of barels of offshore petroleum, a very well educated population, no crime. A united cyprus could be the envy of the world.


And become a super power just like the USA. :lol:


A unitary state does not mean the marginalization of any minority, if the idea of an upper house/senate is acted upon. True, the lower house has to be purely democratic as per the actual population percentages, but having a senate made up of equal members of Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Marionite Cypriots, and Armenian Cypriots to vet all legiation and presidential executive orders will ensure the 'equal ethnic status' that is so important to you...


That you have to sell to the GCs.
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Postby doesntmatter » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:07 am

utu wrote:
doesntmatter wrote:
wyoming cowboy wrote:A united cyprus would mean so much economically, a population of 1.0 million, no military spending the cover of Nato for protection, billions of barels of offshore petroleum, a very well educated population, no crime. A united cyprus could be the envy of the world.


And become a super power just like the USA. :lol:


A unitary state does not mean the marginalization of any minority, if the idea of an upper house/senate is acted upon. True, the lower house has to be purely democratic as per the actual population percentages, but having a senate made up of equal members of Greek Cypriots, Turkish Cypriots, Marionite Cypriots, and Armenian Cypriots to vet all legiation and presidential executive orders will ensure the 'equal ethnic status' that is so important to you...


It's very easy to put suggestions forward for a person who is thousands of miles away and does not know the real situation and how the people feel in the country in question.

As VP already mentioned, try selling your idea to the Greek Cypriots and see what they have to say about it.

Assuming that they do not agree, what is your next suggestion?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sat Dec 13, 2008 4:57 am

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Viewpoint wrote:So the general response shows that TCs do not want to live in a GC state ruled by GCs.


This TC wants to live in a Cyprus state run by Cypriots...But I might have to start my own Cypriot state on Mars to achieve my wish...Who will come with me??? :wink: :)


We still cannot agree on a real definition of Cypriot and once we start discussing the word all hell breaks loose.


As Nikitas suggested we can simplify the definition to the bare essentials (or should I say the bear essentials in sympathy with Zan :wink: )...

Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus is a Cypriot...Does anyone object to that????

Just to make it clear,we are talking about a Cypriot not a True Cypriot :!: :!: :!: :wink: :)


I have an objection to that as it leaves me out, even though it covers my sons both ways.

So we will just amend it slightly to "Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus, plus CBBB, is a Cypriot".


Easily fixed CBBB..."Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent or child born in Cyprus is a Cypriot!!!...." Happy now??? :wink: :D
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Postby Byron » Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:23 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
CBBB wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Byron wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So the general response shows that TCs do not want to live in a GC state ruled by GCs.


This TC wants to live in a Cyprus state run by Cypriots...But I might have to start my own Cypriot state on Mars to achieve my wish...Who will come with me??? :wink: :)


We still cannot agree on a real definition of Cypriot and once we start discussing the word all hell breaks loose.


As Nikitas suggested we can simplify the definition to the bare essentials (or should I say the bear essentials in sympathy with Zan :wink: )...

Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus is a Cypriot...Does anyone object to that????

Just to make it clear,we are talking about a Cypriot not a True Cypriot :!: :!: :!: :wink: :)


I have an objection to that as it leaves me out, even though it covers my sons both ways.

So we will just amend it slightly to "Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus, plus CBBB, is a Cypriot".


Easily fixed CBBB..."Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent or child born in Cyprus is a Cypriot!!!...." Happy now??? :wink: :D


The term Cypriot as a nationality was not defined under the Cyprus constitution. The constitution refers initially to two communities or religious groups one Greek and one Turk but not Cypriot.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:23 pm

So there are 2 communities not 1?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:34 am

Viewpoint wrote:So there are 2 communities not 1?

Who gives a rat’s arse how many “communities” there are? Cyprus is a sovereign country of a variety of citizens like 400 odd other sovereign countries out there on the planet. Your “community this” and “community that” talk is as boring and out of date as communist proletarian "community farming" crap! :lol:
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Postby utu » Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:24 am

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So there are 2 communities not 1?

Who gives a rat’s arse how many “communities” there are? Cyprus is a sovereign country of a variety of citizens like 400 odd other sovereign countries out there on the planet. Your “community this” and “community that” talk is as boring and out of date as communist proletarian "community farming" crap! :lol:


What terms do you think would be more appropriate?
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Postby CBBB » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:46 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
CBBB wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Byron wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So the general response shows that TCs do not want to live in a GC state ruled by GCs.


This TC wants to live in a Cyprus state run by Cypriots...But I might have to start my own Cypriot state on Mars to achieve my wish...Who will come with me??? :wink: :)


We still cannot agree on a real definition of Cypriot and once we start discussing the word all hell breaks loose.


As Nikitas suggested we can simplify the definition to the bare essentials (or should I say the bear essentials in sympathy with Zan :wink: )...

Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus is a Cypriot...Does anyone object to that????

Just to make it clear,we are talking about a Cypriot not a True Cypriot :!: :!: :!: :wink: :)


I have an objection to that as it leaves me out, even though it covers my sons both ways.

So we will just amend it slightly to "Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent born in Cyprus, plus CBBB, is a Cypriot".


Thanks Bir, that will do nicely.

Easily fixed CBBB..."Anybody who was born in Cyprus or has one parent or child born in Cyprus is a Cypriot!!!...." Happy now??? :wink: :D
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Postby Oracle » Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:06 am

utu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So there are 2 communities not 1?

Who gives a rat’s arse how many “communities” there are? Cyprus is a sovereign country of a variety of citizens like 400 odd other sovereign countries out there on the planet. Your “community this” and “community that” talk is as boring and out of date as communist proletarian "community farming" crap! :lol:


What terms do you think would be more appropriate?


The TCs are a CULT .... (but not a popular one! :lol: )
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