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[Oracle]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

Oh is this an admittance that you stole too much?

You are going to get a bollocking from GR and Kifeas soon for butting in with pointless and damaging questions Stella.

It is my offering....Now what are you going to offer from the government and country you stole.....Do you think that might have been too much???

Nope ... I don't think they are going to help you out of this one

... and I wouldn't do deals with blackmailers! Especially once they start admitting their crime ....

[zan]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

Oh is this an admittance that you stole too much?

You are going to get a bollocking from GR and Kifeas soon for butting in with pointless and damaging questions Stella.

It is my offering....Now what are you going to offer from the government and country you stole.....Do you think that might have been too much???

Nope ... I don't think they are going to help you out of this one

... and I wouldn't do deals with blackmailers! Especially once they start admitting their crime ....

Never was expecting help dear...From you Don't make me laugh!!


Is that last bit about you!!! Thanks for the advise and dragging this thread into a childish game....

[Byron]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

[zan]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

What do you understand the status quo is Byron....

[Byron]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

What do you understand the status quo is Byron....

Pre 1974 !

[zan]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

What do you understand the status quo is Byron....

Pre 1974 !

Well! In 1960 we had our rights in government...By 1963, we didn't......The Greeks used every trick in the book to see to that. Can you be more specific on your date or did you not know about 1960 or 63???

[Byron]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

What do you understand the status quo is Byron....

Pre 1974 !

Well! In 1960 we had our rights in government...By 1963, we didn't......The Greeks used every trick in the book to see to that. Can you be more specific on your date or did you not know about 1960 or 63???

I am not too sure where you are leading too. I said that the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots wish to restore the Cyprus Republic to the position it was before the 1974 Turkish Invasion when the Cyprus Republic represented 100% of Cypriot territory. This may not necessarily be my view but how I perceive the wishes of most Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots but I may be wrong.

The 1960 constitution has never been changed and I am not too sure what 1963 has got to do with it. You are advocating for a 70/30 split with recognition of the TRNC so what the Greek side believes is irrelevant to you.

Since there is such a wide difference of opinion, no solution will be possible that is my message. There is no need to heat up the fire further.

[zan]

Sorry!


The split is 70/30 as opposed to the 37% we hold now. The recognition of the TRNC would be the 30%. Compensation to all that have lost land at current market prices. Thats it really...The rest is up to the two separate countries........Don't really understand what you mean by no preconditions though.......Can it happen without them?

A 7% reduction in land to be given back to the GC's and compensation to be paid to those that lost their homes on both sides with recognition of the TRNC as a seperate state. Have I understood correctly ?

I think so!

So if this was accepted by the GC's we would have a done deal. Am I right ? If so what do other GC's think of this proposal ?

That about sums it up Byron.

Instead of discussion we get abuse.

I read the proposal made by Kifeas: he advocates a 97% / 3% split between the two communities. Zan is offering 70% / 30% ; I do not think we are making any progress at all here. The Turks want to keep what they have, the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots want to restore the status quo but the Turks disagree while the world at large looks on bemused.

This is a problem that nobody wishes to solve !

What do you understand the status quo is Byron....

Pre 1974 !

Well! In 1960 we had our rights in government...By 1963, we didn't......The Greeks used every trick in the book to see to that. Can you be more specific on your date or did you not know about 1960 or 63???

I am not too sure where you are leading too. I said that the Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots wish to restore the Cyprus Republic to the position it was before the 1974 Turkish Invasion when the Cyprus Republic represented 100% of Cypriot territory. This may not necessarily be my view but how I perceive the wishes of most Greeks, Greek Cypriots or Cypriots but I may be wrong.

The 1960 constitution has never been changed and I am not too sure what 1963 has got to do with it. You are advocating for a 70/30 split with recognition of the TRNC so what the Greek side believes is irrelevant to you.

Since there is such a wide difference of opinion, no solution will be possible that is my message. There is no need to heat up the fire further.

Then may I respectfully ask you to read up on what has and has not been changed in the original Zurich agreement and the events of 1963 in which I was effected directly and which lead to my family fleeing for their lives. The government that was supposedly representing 100% of Cyprus was not the government that was put into power under the Zurich agreement. Since 1963 the TCs have been under isolation....Not quite the "status quo" that you referred to.

Besides that....I am one of the Cypriots you refer to......I don't want to return to pre 1974 but to pre 1963 and so do thousands like me.

[DT.]

You don't deserve to return to this island at all Zan.

[xxNilxx]

Nobody will be living as a minority. Everybody is Cypriot, and all Cypriots have equal rights. Turkish speaking Cypriots population wise are smaller like Maronites, Latins and Armenians. Some people really have to accept the fact and move on - this is where the problem is being caused.