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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:14 pm

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Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:18 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls



Can we safely assume you are referring to the New Testament? Also which author/interpretor?

I think they are all as authentic as the Al Koran.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:22 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls



Can we safely assume you are referring to the New Testament? Also which author/interpretor?

I think they are all as authentic as the Al Koran.

The New Testament itself, as peddled to the modern world cannot prove its own authenticity… :?
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


It is a dumb statememt which is made by those having blind faith in God whilst denouncing all evidence which is scientifically proven. :roll:

It also proves that Yialousa is very narrow minded, and finds it difficult to get out of their comfort zone.

Thanks for the links. But the scrolls prove absolutely nothing at all.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


I think the authenticity of "The Bible" is independent of the existence of "God".

No doubt stories were written, recording man's ideas of the Universe as it was then, much like Homer wrote tales of travels, gods and beasts. They are just records of events, interpreted with the understanding of the time.

Nothing has produced any evidence of a god ... other then as a figment of people's imaginations, which is exactly true to date!
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


It is a dumb statememt which is made by those having blind faith in God whilst denouncing all evidence which is scientifically proven. :roll:

It also proves that Yialousa is very narrow minded, and finds it difficult to get out of their comfort zone.

Thanks for the links. But the scrolls prove absolutely nothing at all.

Don't be silly, the important thing is that some of the Dead Sea scrolls are 1,000 years older than any previously known manuscripts of the Old Testament ever found.

When they were discovered and analyzed (carbon dated etc) the entire scientific and religious communities were shaken at their very foundations.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:41 pm

Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


I think the authenticity of "The Bible" is independent of the existence of "God".

No doubt stories were written, recording man's ideas of the Universe as it was then, much like Homer wrote tales of travels, gods and beasts. They are just records of events, interpreted with the understanding of the time.

Nothing has produced any evidence of a god ... other then as a figment of people's imaginations, which is exactly true to date!

Surely the authenticity of the touted “word of God” must be crucial towards any enquiry of God's existence…
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Postby observer » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:41 pm

It seems to me that we can either have an omnipresent God, who by being everywhere at once is so outside our experience that he/she/it can't be seen by us, or, we can have a singular God, and with the Universe being so enormous, there will be long intervals between visits, so you're unlikely to see him/her/it.

There is a third possibility, that God doesn't exist and belief in God is only an irrational superstition. However, evolution on earth is only a brief moment in the suggested lifetime of the Universe; no one can say what happened before the 'big bang', how (if?) the Universe is going to end, or what is happening at the other end of the Universe. It's possible that in this local area of time and space there is an irrational belief in scientists summoned into being by God.

I'll now go and lie down and stare at the ceiling for a while.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:48 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


It is a dumb statememt which is made by those having blind faith in God whilst denouncing all evidence which is scientifically proven. :roll:

It also proves that Yialousa is very narrow minded, and finds it difficult to get out of their comfort zone.

Thanks for the links. But the scrolls prove absolutely nothing at all.

Don't be silly, the important thing is that some of the Dead Sea scrolls are 1,000 years older than any previously known manuscripts of the Old Testament ever found.

When they were discovered and analyzed (carbon dated etc) the entire scientific and religious communities were shaken at their very foundations.


This to me just proves that the Old Testament is written by man, and is not the divine word of the ALMIGHTY, as some blindly believe. It does not prove the existence or not of God, whereas science has provided the best evidence so far that proves evolution and makes a huge mockery of creationist beliefs, which is basically the cornerstone of religions and our impossible quest to grasp the metaphysical unproven existence of God. Science offers the best proof as to the existence of God as the creator. Which basically tells us that religions are feeding the masses a load of bollocks. IMHO.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:53 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

That the New Testament is evidence of anything is just a dumb statement. Yialousa’s posts aren’t worth the precious hard disk space they occupy.

Anyway, the question if God exists must start with the question… “Is the Bible authentic?” and for that we have evidence such as Dead Sea scrolls…

http://www.centuryone.com/25dssfacts.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_scrolls


It is a dumb statememt which is made by those having blind faith in God whilst denouncing all evidence which is scientifically proven. :roll:

It also proves that Yialousa is very narrow minded, and finds it difficult to get out of their comfort zone.

Thanks for the links. But the scrolls prove absolutely nothing at all.

Don't be silly, the important thing is that some of the Dead Sea scrolls are 1,000 years older than any previously known manuscripts of the Old Testament ever found.

When they were discovered and analyzed (carbon dated etc) the entire scientific and religious communities were shaken at their very foundations.


This to me just proves that the Old Testament is written by man, and is not the divine word of the ALMIGHTY, as some blindly believe. It does not prove the existence or not of God, whereas science has provided the best evidence so far that proves evolution and makes a huge mockery of creationist beliefs, which is basically the cornerstone of religions and our impossible quest to grasp the metaphysical unproven existence of God. Science offers the best proof as to the existence of God as the creator. Which basically tells us that religions are feeding the masses a load of bollocks. IMHO.

Science has proven fuck-all when it comes to matters regarding the universe so don’t dismiss anything religious just yet.

An intelligent person will keep an open mind and accept that some queries may not receive an answer in their lifetime if ever.

Anyways, I'll catch you guys later...
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