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Postby FreeSpirit » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:12 pm

Bananiot wrote:If god exists why is he/she/it playing hide and seek?
Probably bashful, but seriously if you'd made such a big cock up wouldn't you hide?
Let's face it the world yoday is not much to be proud of even with the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac.
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Dec 05, 2008 1:44 am

Bananiot wrote:If god exists why is he/she/it playing hide and seek?


You will meet Him/Her/It soon! :o Prepare yourself :!:
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:56 am

Bananiot wrote:If god exists why is he/she/it playing hide and seek?

That’s based on the assumption that an infinite subject can be observed by the human eye but according to Matthew 5:8…

‘Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God’
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Postby T_C » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:34 am

If you really believe in God then you will see... :)
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby yialousa1971 » Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:47 am

Oracle wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
CBBB wrote:I am sure that most members of the forum are believers of evolutionism ...


It is not a matter of believing in evolution ... it is a matter of accepting the evidence or refuting it.

Evolution rests on evidence for which you may have to prepare yourself .... as opposed to accepting some-one's theory about a fantasy ... and without expecting evidence (much like reading a novel).

Blind faith is not comparable to an evidence based physical, changeable and testable proposal.


Believe in what your heart tells you not false prophets. Does Evolution exist because all I see is Devolution.


I said quite the opposite if you care to read.

Refute the evidence for Evolution if you can, and even then it doesn't matter if all you need is blind faith and no evidence.

With Evolution, you can have both:

(1) Blind faith in Evolution ... because if it's good enough for religion, it should be good enough for Evolution.

But also, on top of that:

(2) Evidence, refutable and testable. Above and beyond what is presented for religion.

Take your choice ... just blind faith: or blind faith and / or evidence?


I never said you said it, its what I told you to believe. I was being sarcastic since you follow Dawkins a false prophet in my eyes. :twisted:

1) Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

2) I know of someone who saw the Devil, so if the Devil exists then God must exist?
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Postby FreeSpirit » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:36 am

T_C wrote:If you really believe in God then you will see... :)


Yes bu which God.
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:19 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
CBBB wrote:I am sure that most members of the forum are believers of evolutionism ...


It is not a matter of believing in evolution ... it is a matter of accepting the evidence or refuting it.

Evolution rests on evidence for which you may have to prepare yourself .... as opposed to accepting some-one's theory about a fantasy ... and without expecting evidence (much like reading a novel).

Blind faith is not comparable to an evidence based physical, changeable and testable proposal.


Believe in what your heart tells you not false prophets. Does Evolution exist because all I see is Devolution.


I said quite the opposite if you care to read.

Refute the evidence for Evolution if you can, and even then it doesn't matter if all you need is blind faith and no evidence.

With Evolution, you can have both:

(1) Blind faith in Evolution ... because if it's good enough for religion, it should be good enough for Evolution.

But also, on top of that:

(2) Evidence, refutable and testable. Above and beyond what is presented for religion.

Take your choice ... just blind faith: or blind faith and / or evidence?


I never said you said it, its what I told you to believe. I was being sarcastic since you follow Dawkins a false prophet in my eyes. :twisted:

1) Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.

2) I know of someone who saw the Devil, so if the Devil exists then God must exist?


I don't "follow" Dawkins ... but I have read some of his books, as well as other Biologists (Stephen Jay Gould, Matt Ridley etc). They just provide extra fodder for thought. However the evidence for Evolution has not come from any of them but Aristotle, Wallace, Darwin and then from molecular evidence, a host of Geneticists/Palaeontologists.

What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"? Remember evidence is not just hearsay, or a written word. It has to stand up to scrutiny and testing, not resort to pure "belief" otherwise every single thing in one's imagination is as great as "God" ... which then nullifies his demand to be unique :roll:

You can test evolution scientifically (test-tube generation of pre-biotic molecules, assembly of cell-like structures, mutability of DNA, fossil dating and location in predictable sites etc).

People just don't want to be believe we are only bags of chemicals .... (fair enough, so long as they don't corrupt the world and set us back to thinking we are so special we can do anything we like, so long as it is in the name of GOD!)
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Get Real! » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:13 pm

Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:31 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?





:lol: :lol: :lol: Yes she does. :lol:
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Re: Does God/Allah/Budda/Jehovah/etc. exist?

Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 05, 2008 12:58 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:What "evidence" is there for "Christianity"?

That's easy to prove, are you sure you didn't mean "God"? :?


I used inverted commas because it referred to what Yialousa1971BC said whilst we were debating GOD .... maybe has the two confused?

yialousa1971 wrote:Evolution has some evidence so does Christianity ie. the New Testament.
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