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[Pyrpolizer]

You are right here we to have to say YES therefore we represent 50% of the say in Cyprus.

You're just a joke... forget it!

Represent 50% where and how?To the outside world?Internally? Or what??

[Pyrpolizer]

You can't claim the Tcs have no power in the north and with the same breath claim that it's all their fault, sunny Jim.
Keep on believing that. When will you get it into your thick heads, that the settlers are not organized or united to have an effect on the elections. It's the TCs that will give you the two finger salute, because they are sick to death of your mentality, maturity(lack of), petty politics and your intransigence.
Tut Tut Tut.

This is not what I said. I claimed they made FATAL mistakes FIRST, and they pay for them LATER.
Now you tell me the settlers are not organized YET, to have their OWN people on power which is partially wrong anyway, but a)Slowly slowly they will do that too and in the meantime b) they chose an idiot among the TCs to do the job for them.

In the same breath you tell us it is not the settlers who will put Eroglu on power it is the TCs. So here you go, you are now trying to convince us the TCs are so stupid as to do their last FATAL mistake.

Bravo Fredy!!

[Pyrpolizer]

Do you understand the difference between the Turks destroying us and the GCs doing the same?

Sorry but i dont either way it means the end of the tc race, and the turks invaded because we where doing that ( so they say )

so it makes them no better then you claim us to be.

where as we would not kill you off like you claim and turkey is going to and even doing so.

Palio you forget we are Turkish not Greek.

OK, OK we got it, you are Turkish so the Turkish knife is sweater than the Greek knife if you are to be killed, or kicked out of here.

Wrong there is no Turkish knife just a Gc one, so even you can work out these threats of being wiped out by Turks is a joke and has no effect on us.

Are you playing stupid? Read what YOU wrote.

[Viewpoint]

Do you understand the difference between the Turks destroying us and the GCs doing the same?

Sorry but i dont either way it means the end of the tc race, and the turks invaded because we where doing that ( so they say )

so it makes them no better then you claim us to be.

where as we would not kill you off like you claim and turkey is going to and even doing so.

Palio you forget we are Turkish not Greek.

OK, OK we got it, you are Turkish so the Turkish knife is sweater than the Greek knife if you are to be killed, or kicked out of here.

Wrong there is no Turkish knife just a Gc one, so even you can work out these threats of being wiped out by Turks is a joke and has no effect on us.

Are you playing stupid? Read what YOU wrote.

Hello the word was used because Palio thinks they are destroying us but in fact we think of it as returning to our original roots, the destroying would be done by GCs which with whom we do not share the same roots and have experience of their real intentions.

[YFred]

You can't claim the Tcs have no power in the north and with the same breath claim that it's all their fault, sunny Jim.
Keep on believing that. When will you get it into your thick heads, that the settlers are not organized or united to have an effect on the elections. It's the TCs that will give you the two finger salute, because they are sick to death of your mentality, maturity(lack of), petty politics and your intransigence.
Tut Tut Tut.

This is not what I said. I claimed they made FATAL mistakes FIRST, and they pay for them LATER.
Now you tell me the settlers are not organized YET, to have their OWN people on power which is partially wrong anyway, but a)Slowly slowly they will do that too and in the meantime b) they chose an idiot among the TCs to do the job for them.

In the same breath you tell us it is not the settlers who will put Eroglu on power it is the TCs. So here you go, you are now trying to convince us the TCs are so stupid as to do their last FATAL mistake.

Bravo Fredy!!

Now, don't go around accusing TCs of being stupid.

What were GCs when they voted TPapa on a peace ticket? Stupidity seems to be prevalent in much larger numbers in the south as well as this forum, I might add, what?

[Piratis]

Piratis

[b]You were [b]NOT supposed to be "partners in a Republic". You were supposed to be equal citizens, part of an ethnic minority, just like the Muslims/Turks of Greece or Bulgaria, the Greeks in Turkey, or any other minority in any other country. Why should you be "partners" and those others should not? Whats is so special about your tiny community? [/b]
[/b]
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Everyone please take not if we are not seen as equal partners then there is nothing left to discuss obviously Rauf Denktas was right all along.

I was right all along. I have been saying this fact for years. You are not "partners" but a small ethnic minority who is collaborating with foreign imperialists in order to extract gains you do not deserve on the expense of the Cypriot people.

This is the crux of the Cyprus problem Gcs do not see us as equal partners but as just another minority and they expect us to give up the TRNC so the can take away all our rights and reduce us to minority status in a GC state run by GCs.

The crux of the problem is that since you came to our island you are oppressing us and you are having gains and privileges on our expense.

We are not living in the time of the Ottomans anymore and you can not have such privileges on our expense. It is about time to let Cyprus to be ruled democratically by its own people. You can have your one vote each as well, and nobody will deny to you your human or minority rights.

I do not expect you to do anything and I do not expect to ever come to any agreement with a criminal like yourself. I know very well that you want to steal our lands and take our rights. I don't expect that you will voluntarily accept anything else. We all know that you will not, so why do you keep telling us what has been obvious to us for centuries? You think we are stupid and we have not understood your intentions yet?

However we will continue to fight for justice and freedom and be certain that justice will in the end prevail and your illegal occupation will end either you like it or not.

The current situation is a result of your own input, you GCs and your dreams spawned the 1960 agreements, that was the only way to keep you people form gifting the island to another country. The current negotiations are also shaped by the need to balance out your people desire to dominate and discriminate against us, you are not trusted by us the Un the EU by Turkey the Brits...no one trusts your motives under a unitary state as they know it will not take long for you to dominate and get rid of the TCs population. think about this for a while as it is very important if we are to unite you will have to accept us as equal partners other wise we will never give up the TRNC recognized or not.

Since Cyprus is our own island we can decide in democratic way where Cyprus should belong. We are not foreigners that invaded Cyprus to incorporate the island by force in our empire. This is what you did, not us. Never forget this.

The EU trust as, this is why they accepted us as members, something that they will never do for Turkey. We also have justice in our side, which is why the courts in EU and even Britain support us.

Your minority can stay on our island as any other minority in any other country. So stop trying to excuse your crimes with imaginary excuses. Nobody believes you. Neither the EU neither Britain, nobody. Your pseudo state is recognized by nobody because you have no right for such state on our land, never forget this either.

We will not accept your minority as our Ottoman overlords again. If you want to be equal Cypriot citizens, you are welcome, but you can have absolutely nothing more on our expense. Our struggle for freedom and justice will continue until justice will prevail.

[Pyrpolizer]

Do you understand the difference between the Turks destroying us and the GCs doing the same?

Sorry but i dont either way it means the end of the tc race, and the turks invaded because we where doing that ( so they say )

so it makes them no better then you claim us to be.

where as we would not kill you off like you claim and turkey is going to and even doing so.

Palio you forget we are Turkish not Greek.

OK, OK we got it, you are Turkish so the Turkish knife is sweater than the Greek knife if you are to be killed, or kicked out of here.

Wrong there is no Turkish knife just a Gc one, so even you can work out these threats of being wiped out by Turks is a joke and has no effect on us.

Are you playing stupid? Read what YOU wrote.

Hello the word was used because Palio thinks they are destroying us but in fact we think of it as returning to our original roots, the destroying would be done by GCs which with whom we do not share the same roots and have experience of their real intentions.

Actually you are becoming insignifigant minorities in some foreign countries mostly in the UK, but if it suits ou to beleive you are returning to your original roots so be it.
We are eagerly waiting the date all of you will return to their Orignal roots.

[YFred]

Piratis

[b]You were [b]NOT supposed to be "partners in a Republic". You were supposed to be equal citizens, part of an ethnic minority, just like the Muslims/Turks of Greece or Bulgaria, the Greeks in Turkey, or any other minority in any other country. Why should you be "partners" and those others should not? Whats is so special about your tiny community? [/b]
[/b]
.

Everyone please take not if we are not seen as equal partners then there is nothing left to discuss obviously Rauf Denktas was right all along.

I was right all along. I have been saying this fact for years. You are not "partners" but a small ethnic minority who is collaborating with foreign imperialists in order to extract gains you do not deserve on the expense of the Cypriot people.

This is the crux of the Cyprus problem Gcs do not see us as equal partners but as just another minority and they expect us to give up the TRNC so the can take away all our rights and reduce us to minority status in a GC state run by GCs.

The crux of the problem is that since you came to our island you are oppressing us and you are having gains and privileges on our expense.

We are not living in the time of the Ottomans anymore and you can not have such privileges on our expense. It is about time to let Cyprus to be ruled democratically by its own people. You can have your one vote each as well, and nobody will deny to you your human or minority rights.

I do not expect you to do anything and I do not expect to ever come to any agreement with a criminal like yourself. I know very well that you want to steal our lands and take our rights. I don't expect that you will voluntarily accept anything else. We all know that you will not, so why do you keep telling us what has been obvious to us for centuries? You think we are stupid and we have not understood your intentions yet?

However we will continue to fight for justice and freedom and be certain that justice will in the end prevail and your illegal occupation will end either you like it or not.

The current situation is a result of your own input, you GCs and your dreams spawned the 1960 agreements, that was the only way to keep you people form gifting the island to another country. The current negotiations are also shaped by the need to balance out your people desire to dominate and discriminate against us, you are not trusted by us the Un the EU by Turkey the Brits...no one trusts your motives under a unitary state as they know it will not take long for you to dominate and get rid of the TCs population. think about this for a while as it is very important if we are to unite you will have to accept us as equal partners other wise we will never give up the TRNC recognized or not.

Since Cyprus is our own island we can decide in democratic way where Cyprus should belong. We are not foreigners that invaded Cyprus to incorporate the island by force in our empire. This is what you did, not us. Never forget this.

The EU trust as, this is why they accepted us as members, something that they will never do for Turkey. We also have justice in our side, which is why the courts in EU and even Britain support us.

Your minority can stay on our island as any other minority in any other country. So stop trying to excuse your crimes with imaginary excuses. Nobody believes you. Neither the EU neither Britain, nobody. Your pseudo state is recognized by nobody because you have no right for such state on our land, never forget this either.

We will not accept your minority as our Ottoman overlords again. If you want to be equal Cypriot citizens, you are welcome, but you can have absolutely nothing more on our expense. Our struggle for freedom and justice will continue until justice will prevail.

Oh no it is not.
He is behind you.

[Pyrpolizer]

You can't claim the Tcs have no power in the north and with the same breath claim that it's all their fault, sunny Jim.
Keep on believing that. When will you get it into your thick heads, that the settlers are not organized or united to have an effect on the elections. It's the TCs that will give you the two finger salute, because they are sick to death of your mentality, maturity(lack of), petty politics and your intransigence.
Tut Tut Tut.

This is not what I said. I claimed they made FATAL mistakes FIRST, and they pay for them LATER.
Now you tell me the settlers are not organized YET, to have their OWN people on power which is partially wrong anyway, but a)Slowly slowly they will do that too and in the meantime b) they chose an idiot among the TCs to do the job for them.

In the same breath you tell us it is not the settlers who will put Eroglu on power it is the TCs. So here you go, you are now trying to convince us the TCs are so stupid as to do their last FATAL mistake.

Bravo Fredy!!

Now, don't go around accusing TCs of being stupid.

What were GCs when they voted TPapa on a peace ticket? Stupidity seems to be prevalent in much larger numbers in the south as well as this forum, I might add, what?

Hey, hey wasn't that idiot who asked the UN to start immediate negotiations on the Anan Plan while Denktash refused to even discuss it?

Btw I never said the TCs are so stupid as to elect Eroglu. It is YOU who insists they are. What I isist is that the settlers are the ones ho will put him on powewr.

[YFred]

You can't claim the Tcs have no power in the north and with the same breath claim that it's all their fault, sunny Jim.
Keep on believing that. When will you get it into your thick heads, that the settlers are not organized or united to have an effect on the elections. It's the TCs that will give you the two finger salute, because they are sick to death of your mentality, maturity(lack of), petty politics and your intransigence.
Tut Tut Tut.

This is not what I said. I claimed they made FATAL mistakes FIRST, and they pay for them LATER.
Now you tell me the settlers are not organized YET, to have their OWN people on power which is partially wrong anyway, but a)Slowly slowly they will do that too and in the meantime b) they chose an idiot among the TCs to do the job for them.

In the same breath you tell us it is not the settlers who will put Eroglu on power it is the TCs. So here you go, you are now trying to convince us the TCs are so stupid as to do their last FATAL mistake.

Bravo Fredy!!

Now, don't go around accusing TCs of being stupid.

What were GCs when they voted TPapa on a peace ticket? Stupidity seems to be prevalent in much larger numbers in the south as well as this forum, I might add, what?

Hey, hey wasn't that idiot who asked the UN to start immediate negotiations on the Anan Plan while Denktash refused to even discuss it?

Yep, knowing that Dengtash wouldn't attend, but the stupid fool then got snookered when he found Talat in front him and then insisted that he would not attend unless Dengtash was there. I tell you, how stupid one has to be, to become roc muhtari.
But here is the real stupid part which not even you you guys haven't fathomed yet. He will go down in the annals of history as the only muhtarisimo to negotiate a peace plan and to recommend his people to vote against it. Now that is unique, and so is the number of forumers who thought the world of him. Now I use the word unique in the widest possible sense.