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[boulio]

I asked that question mikkie two days ago about t/c and turkish comprimises still waiting for a response.

[keo123]

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[Pyrpolizer]

In addition to the hostile environment that was created by combatants on both sides, there was a second factor that led to the polarization of both communities: with a view toward partition, the Turks withdrew from predominantly Greek areas and evicted Greeks from areas where Turks were in the majority. In a single week over 600 families, two-thirds of them Greek, left their homes, and many Turks who left Greek areas did so under intense pressure from Turkish separatists.

Does anybody know when exactly was that? My aunt's family was one of those 600 families.

[Get Real!]

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Are you related to Carlsberg321?

[Malapapa]

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Are you related to Carlsberg321?

No, he's a love child of Kronenberg 1666 and Stella.... Stella Artois.

[BirKibrisli]

"GC nationalist ambition to rule over the TCs = Taksim

Taksim = GC nationalist ambition to rule over the TCs

This equation is also in operation as we speak...so I can easily say "at the CORE of Cyprus Problem lies the GC nationalist ambition to dominate and rule the TCs.... "

Sorry Bir, but this does not wash. You are changing the goalposts here, because now you are saying that the aim of the GC's has moved away from Enosis and you now say that our 'national cause' is to dominate the TC's! To me this smacks of creating another excuse to for the continued justification of Taksim.

What you are effectively saying is that the GC's will have to accept a 'United' Cyprus on Turkey's terms for the time being. Yeah, right! Some compromise solution that will lead to. The art of compromise requires two to tango, not one to demand and the other to yield.

Mikkie...you guys like to talk about how Enosis was a legitimate right of the GCs back then...If you are right then Taksim was the legitimate right of the TCs..now Enosis did not happen,not because the GCs woke up and realised it was wrong to want to give one's country away,but because the TCs with Turkey's help stopped it in its tracks...Now we have Taksim,lets say,albeit not agreed to...Now HERE IS THE COMPROMISE...THE BIGGEST OF THEM ALL...TO AGREE TO A FEDERATION OR UNITARY STATE THE TCS WOULD BE GIVING UP THEIR OWN STATE...THEY WILL TROW OUT TAKSIM... Now don't you think that is a BIG enough compromise...???

[Oracle]

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Perhaps you should try drinking a little less than 123 Keos per day ...

[Epiktitos]

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Perhaps you should try drinking a little less than 123 Keos per day ...

Perhaps he ought to start with learning how to use an apostrophe

[boomerang]

"GC nationalist ambition to rule over the TCs = Taksim

Taksim = GC nationalist ambition to rule over the TCs

This equation is also in operation as we speak...so I can easily say "at the CORE of Cyprus Problem lies the GC nationalist ambition to dominate and rule the TCs.... "

Sorry Bir, but this does not wash. You are changing the goalposts here, because now you are saying that the aim of the GC's has moved away from Enosis and you now say that our 'national cause' is to dominate the TC's! To me this smacks of creating another excuse to for the continued justification of Taksim.

What you are effectively saying is that the GC's will have to accept a 'United' Cyprus on Turkey's terms for the time being. Yeah, right! Some compromise solution that will lead to. The art of compromise requires two to tango, not one to demand and the other to yield.

Mikkie...you guys like to talk about how Enosis was a legitimate right of the GCs back then...If you are right then Taksim was the legitimate right of the TCs..now Enosis did not happen,not because the GCs woke up and realised it was wrong to want to give one's country away,but because the TCs with Turkey's help stopped it in its tracks...Now we have Taksim,lets say,albeit not agreed to...Now HERE IS THE COMPROMISE...THE BIGGEST OF THEM ALL...TO AGREE TO A FEDERATION OR UNITARY STATE THE TCS WOULD BE GIVING UP THEIR OWN STATE...THEY WILL TROW OUT TAKSIM... Now don't you think that is a BIG enough compromise...???

one thing is a miss here bir....enosis did not cover taking tc land by force, while taksim does...so where exactly is the comprimise...

you might argue that enosis would have spelt the end for the tcs, but unfortunately and as history shows that wouldn't have happened...the turkish minority grew in greece while the greek minority in turkey declined...

[Oracle]

you guys like to talk about how Enosis was a legitimate right of the GCs back then...If you are right then Taksim was the legitimate right of the TCs

If by legitimate right you mean the democratic wish of the majority, and as it so-happens, the people associated with Cyprus for longest; then NO, the TCs did not have a legitimate right to demand Taksim ... just as the Muslim immigrants to the UK do not have a right to split the UK for their own convenience.

.... THE TCS WOULD BE GIVING UP THEIR OWN STATE...

I know I've been out all evening, but since when have the TCs had their "own state" to give up?