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[paliometoxo]

aparantly it wont be up to us any more and we will have turkish agreed partition and it forced upon us..

thats how he thinks we will sign it away.. forced

[Pyrpolizer]

Bir you should be very careful Kikapu is a very dangerous individual and would sell us out to the highest bidder without even batting an eye lid, he tells lies then believes his own shit, thats a very very dangerous mentality. Plus he is not really responding to your questions directly but spouting out the GC propaganda based line, you must have noticed this, nothing he argues is from the soul but are very text book, cold and calculated.

Yeah Bir must feel very proud now, having YOU by his side.
You think Bir is not the same person as he was before, but you are mistaken. It is the same person looking from a different angle. And YOU are the personalisation of one of his worst fears. Keep on licking...

[Pyrpolizer]

aparantly it wont be up to us any more and we will have turkish agreed partition and it forced upon us..

thats how he thinks we will sign it away.. forced

Let him think that way.
Have they ever thought of anything right? 36 years and they do one stupidity upon another.
Just sit back, relax, and watch the next one!

NO WORRIES.

[Kikapu]

Bir excellent posts, you have knocked Kikapu for six and in the face of such reason he will not even bother to reply with answers that address the valid issues you have put forward. Well done and thank you for expressing the views of the majority of TCs.

What the hell do you know. You don't even fully understand the written English language that well. Why don't you go and take your dog for a walk. It will do both of you good to get some fresh air..!

You are wrong again, I dont have a dog plus I may not be as articulate as you in the bullshit stakes but I understand that you are biased and totally on the side of the GCs, without even one arguement or opposing view against GCs, this places your credibility in the trash can, the above post only reveals your own mentality when challenged, Bir has done a excellent job in exposing why you can never be taken seriously by TCs.

Lucky for the dog, or else he too might have become brainwashed by you.!

Bir and I are having a very mature debate without insults and anger as the case has been in the past between many members here on the forum. Let this be a lesson to you all. Bir is someone I admire and even if we are not on the same political wavelength any longer as the case has been for the last 3 years, it does not detract my admiration of him as a person, a fellow Cypriot and a TC. We are "that friend" who is telling the other what they don't want to hear, but should hear it all the same, that's all. His past experiences in Cyprus as a child was much longer than mine and he being few years older than me, he can also remember more of what went on, unlike you who were still suckling on your mother’s milk in the comforts of your home in the UK. This does not however make his position for the future between the GCs and the TCs in Cyprus anymore correct than mine. If anything, I have far less emotional baggage to deal with from the past than he and are in a better position to see the situation more clearly without clouding issues with the horrors of the past. You on the other hand have zero experience in Cyprus before 1993, so that makes your opinions only propaganda and nothing else, which gives you ZERO credibility by all open minded individuals!.

I only express my own opinions and was not promoted as you have been to represent the views of the average TCs and the settlers in the north , which from my prospective, you are bringing a very bad image to all those decent TCs by you being their face and voice, so please VP, do not get carried away with your own importance, because it is hardly a compliment that you are paying to the decent TCs, nor are you in a position to judge anyone’s credibility in what others opinions are. I'm giving you a TCs prospective on what a TC would have done had the entire Cyprus situation was in reverse, which I'm sure you would do everything in the exact way as the GCs are doing. It is only Human Nature. You should be very grateful to me to give you the knowledge you lack in seeing why the other side is acting in a way they do. The only problem is, you have no such vision or understanding in thinking situations in such “Parallel Universes”.!

[Viewpoint]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

If they don't even accept a BBF, what makes you think they'll sign their territory away to you???

When push comes to shove who cares what you guys think you have had enough time to piss about the big boys will decide and you will bow to the pressure or face severe consequencies.

[Viewpoint]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

Yeah do bet on that, and you will soon find out if it will ever regarded as a simple inability of the TWO sides to agree. A for your partition dream do dare ask for it and you will see what the price of your dream is.

Walking away and changing the parameters is your prerogative but there is always a price to pay be ready to pay that price you will not like it.

Your Eroglu will actually change the parameters and we will be there to collect.

Watch and learn only 2 months to go.

[Get Real!]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

If they don't even accept a BBF, what makes you think they'll sign their territory away to you???

Whne push comes to shove who cares what you guys think they big boys will decide and you will bow to the pressure or face the severe consequencies.

If push goes to shove the Turkish Cypriots will cease to exist so be careful what you wish for.

[paliometoxo]

aparantly it wont be up to us any more and we will have turkish agreed partition and it forced upon us..

thats how he thinks we will sign it away.. forced

Let him think that way.
Have they ever thought of anything right? 36 years and they do one stupidity upon another.
Just sit back, relax, and watch the next one!

NO WORRIES.

Avrivos.. just a turkish fools hope/dream..

well they did manage to create problems on cyprus to make it look like they needed to send troops to cyprus with the help of america and england..

so they got half of it right 50 years ago when they started to plan the attacks... they think it will be as easy this time and to have it recognised.. evreything is done by force with them, they dont realise it wont work anymore not in this day and age. but they still live like its 10 centuries ago like apes

[Viewpoint]

aparantly it wont be up to us any more and we will have turkish agreed partition and it forced upon us..

thats how he thinks we will sign it away.. forced

Get ready after April the wheels will be put in motion and no one will be able tt stop it, the world has had enough of GC arrogance and despot attitude.

[Viewpoint]

Bir you should be very careful Kikapu is a very dangerous individual and would sell us out to the highest bidder without even batting an eye lid, he tells lies then believes his own shit, thats a very very dangerous mentality. Plus he is not really responding to your questions directly but spouting out the GC propaganda based line, you must have noticed this, nothing he argues is from the soul but are very text book, cold and calculated.

Yeah Bir must feel very proud now, having YOU by his side.
You think Bir is not the same person as he was before, but you are mistaken. It is the same person looking from a different angle. And YOU are the personalisation of one of his worst fears. Keep on licking...

Hes has been influenced by your pig headedness therefore understanding where people like me are coming from, the most of his current input is a reflection of what the majority of TCs think including myself in the face of GC arrogance and despot mentality..