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[Viewpoint]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

[BirKibrisli]

paliometoxo

No im all for unification and equal rights i dont hate tcs i hate mainland turkish army and the turkish government for being in cyprus and occupying our land.. maybe you might take offence to that but a number of tcs would agree with what i say about the army and the mainland turks. i am all for peace and no lines and passports to walk from one side of the country to the other.

You are for unficaiton as long as it is on GC terms which is to take away our community rights and reduce us to minority at the mercy of the GCs who only aim is to take the whole island and turn it into a GC state run by GCs, we will become foreigners in our own country.

Why would the army go before fnding a solution you are asking us to get rid of our security for what?

Passports are needed to control who goes in and out of our country.

I have friends from the north side and even some from turkey i used to know who they did not care about the cy problem and the ones in cyprus agree with me that the army should go home ..etc

Why should they go so you do what ever you want? we will not get rid of our security and safety until there is a solution which guarantees the exact same.

if i was a tc hater i would not have any friends from the north i would never cross over..

Maybe you want to spy and that you are not sincere in your friendship who knows, maybe you are taking information from these people and giving it to your leaders, maybe you want to sue them.

your the one promoting hate against cypritos and love for two states and more hate..

It only appears that way becuase you do not want to hear the truth, the 2 state solution is also supported by the UN and your leaders so you better get used to it because its the only offer thats on the table.

well people can pass from north to south and there is no problems after all these years and open gates everything is ok.. just because you have to show passport it means it stops the violence?

The controls stops the violence as they all know they are on record and if anything happened they would be held accountable so they behave when they visit the other side. No control plenty of violence not worth the risk.

if there is partition and the army goes home what would stop gcs from crossing and killing you people any more then if they would with a re unified land as you claim

The border and the Turkish guarantee just in case you did anything so stupid. Thats why we cannot agree a solution without these guarantees because you are conditioned to get rid of the army so you can do as wish and attack us once again.

I wonder whether Bir would care comment on all these repeatitive provocations

I am spending all my free time trying to respond to Kikapu' posts ,dear Pyro...It is school holidays here and I have my 10 year-old son with me...There is not much point my responding to Viewpoint...I know where he is coming from...I dont necessarily agree with him but I understand him...As I explained before,I am trying to understand where Kikapu is coming from...because I feel he can make a real difference on this Forum,if he only talked about what he knows about the past events...I am trying to get him to the point where he is part of the solution not the problem..Dont anybody get this wrong...Kikapu is the little brother I never had,(even though he is a larger than life personality)...I am very fond of him...I think he is a remarkable person...There is a method to my madness,don't you stress yourself...

[Pyrpolizer]

Hmmmm, I just compared my answers to 1,2, and 3 with those of Kikapu, i would say there is about 70% agreement. Bir what would be your own answers?

[YFred]

Bir excellent posts, you have knocked Kikapu for six and in the face of such reason he will not even bother to reply with answers that address the valid issues you have put forward. Well done and thank you for expressing the views of the majority of TCs.

What the hell do you know. You don't even fully understand the written English language that well. Why don't you go and take your dog for a walk. It will do both of you good to get some fresh air..!

You are wrong again, I dont have a dog plus I may not be as articulate as you in the bullshit stakes but I understand that you are biased and totally on the side of the GCs, without even one arguement or opposing view against GCs, this places your credibility in the trash can, the above post only reveals your own mentality when challenged, Bir has done a excellent job in exposing why you can never be taken seriously by TCs.

Bir, should realise the kind of person Kikapoo is. He actually makes up lies and accuses people of things they are not. He is not as decent as he pretends. People compare him with Deniz. There is no comparison. Chalk and cheese as the old saying goes.
I once asked him why he will not challenge the GC patriots on the forum and his answer was very revealing. He leaves all that to his friend Milti. I notice he did not give the same answer to Bir.
Over to you kicks baby!

[Pyrpolizer]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

Yeah do bet on that, and you will soon find out if it will ever regarded as a simple inability of the TWO sides to agree. A for your partition dream do dare ask for it and you will see what the price of your dream is.

[Viewpoint]

Bir you should be very careful Kikapu is a very dangerous individual and would sell us out to the highest bidder without even batting an eye lid, he tells lies then believes his own shit, thats a very very dangerous mentality. Plus he is not really responding to your questions directly but spouting out the GC propaganda based line, you must have noticed this, nothing he argues is from the soul but are very text book, cold and calculated.

[Viewpoint]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

Yeah do bet on that, and you will soon find out if it will ever regarded as a simple inability of the TWO sides to agree. A for your partition dream do dare ask for it and you will see what the price of your dream is.

Walking away and changing the parameters is your prerogative but there is always a price to pay be ready to pay that price you will not like it.

[Pyrpolizer]

Bir excellent posts, you have knocked Kikapu for six and in the face of such reason he will not even bother to reply with answers that address the valid issues you have put forward. Well done and thank you for expressing the views of the majority of TCs.

What the hell do you know. You don't even fully understand the written English language that well. Why don't you go and take your dog for a walk. It will do both of you good to get some fresh air..!

You are wrong again, I dont have a dog plus I may not be as articulate as you in the bullshit stakes but I understand that you are biased and totally on the side of the GCs, without even one arguement or opposing view against GCs, this places your credibility in the trash can, the above post only reveals your own mentality when challenged, Bir has done a excellent job in exposing why you can never be taken seriously by TCs.

Bir, should realise the kind of person Kikapoo is. He actually makes up lies and accuses people of things they are not. He is not as decent as he pretends. People compare him with Deniz. There is no comparison. Chalk and cheese as the old saying goes.
I once asked him why he will not challenge the GC patriots on the forum and his answer was very revealing. He leaves all that to his friend Milti. I notice he did not give the same answer to Bir.
Over to you kicks baby!

What is your contribution in this forum man???
It's been one week I am here, i haven't seen ANYTHING.

At least Bir has a point for precondtions so that people come closer for a solution, VP has her usual fear and hate spreading arguments, Kikapu his line for Democratic Principles, what's YOURS?

Only "bortous"/fartings reh?

[Get Real!]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

If they don't even accept a BBF, what makes you think they'll sign their territory away to you???

[Pyrpolizer]

I would like to add the following important point: There are 2 months left until April. If there won't be a solution until then and If Eroglu is elected he will surely go clearly for a partition agreement.

I guarantee you the GC side will not care anymore and they will withdraw everything they have proposed/accepted in the past. There is a lot of opposition regarding this BBF in fact 3 of the 5 parties plus the Church oppose it directly and they push for the Government to grab the first opportunity to get rid of it. In fact there was too much pressure when a couple of weeks ago Turkey submitted her proposals which were clearly considered as a 2 states solution.

I warn the TCs in here that after 2 months they will have to kiss goodbye the BBF, and that the GCs will just keep saying NO to everything that is not in line with EU principles and Aquis. As for Turkeys Gurantees and stuff like that, they will just be rejected with lots of these ---> :lol:

And then you will have no one to blame other than yourselves. Patience has it's limits, 2 months more and you will see what happens. There will be no begging anymore.

Thank you, this will help us bring the arguement that the 2 sides canoot find agreement after yet another failure time we considered agreed partition.

Yeah do bet on that, and you will soon find out if it will ever regarded as a simple inability of the TWO sides to agree. A for your partition dream do dare ask for it and you will see what the price of your dream is.

Walking away and changing the parameters is your prerogative but there is always a price to pay be ready to pay that price you will not like it.

Your Eroglu will actually change the parameters and we will be there to collect.