Kikapu wrote:An agreement based on a Fair & Just settlement based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles is what will protect the TCs and not lack of them, as the case was in 1960 constitution, just because it was never meant to protect anyone, but only help those to achieve Enosis and Taksim, and in the end, even though Taksim had crossed the finishing line first, it can hardly be called a victory for the TCs. It has been in fact a "White Elephant" for them and the last 36 years is the proof. It is time to be part of the 21st century, or else they will be left behind to become extinct in the flood of the settlers, even though that is a welcome to some TCs than uniting with the GCs. Foe some, the Taksim struggle continues, and no matter how much I can try to tell them otherwise, it will fall on deaf ears. Those people are beyond reach to accept Unified Cyprus with the above principles I have already mentioned. They are all too happy to do without them and become part of Turkey, as they think annexation will take place, which I do not think that can ever happen, because that's not what Turkey wants, because that will not help Turkey in anyway to become a EU member or influence EU policies through the TCs in a United Cyprus under the terms of what AP had, which was a Confederation. That will not happen either. You may call it being a GS position that I'm taking, but for me, it is being able to see both sides of the Chess board and where the pieces are and able to see the game 3 moves ahead of your own pieces and your opponent’s. Cyprus has been nothing but a chess game for the past 60+ years and the game is still on going. A settlement based on the above principles is what is going to take to finish this game. The question is, are the TCs and the GCs willing to call it a draw and start a fresh game of Unified Cyprus with everyone’s rights protected as equal citizens. It remains to be seen, but it is my hope.!
Kikapu,the TCs will NOT buy that argument...Not at this stage...Not while there is mutual resentment and mistrust....So why are you going on about it? They will not agree to any solution which will remove Turkey from the picture altogether...Which part of that dont' you understand...?They have experienced one thing they hadn't experienced in ages...Physical security... Now think back...Why did you have to leave Cyprus in 1964?
Were your parents adventurous souls who wanted to explore the world?
Think back to what you felt when you were being held prisoner in that school in LImassol? Was it much fun? Now you might have had the opportunities to overcome your trauma,but the average TC (and GC of course,that goes without saying) has not...You did say the GCs have not moved on from 74 mental stress and trauma...Now how can you expect these poor souls to forgive and forget and get back together as if nothing happened?The best thing you can do,if you want a lasting peace in Cyprus is to convince your GC mates here that they are deluded creatures,they must take responsibility of their past actions,instead of helping them deny it and sweep it under the carpet...
I keep telling you,anything you tell TCs will always fall on deaf ears as long as you refuse to tackle the GCs on their denial of our bloody history...Saying I moved on,so now I am living in 21st century in civilised Europe,lets trust NATO and be done with Turkey will not cut ice with the average TC...The memory of those thousands of Bosnians lined up and shot under the electronic eye of your trusted NATO forces is too fresh...Even if they manage to forget their own personal experiences and the traumas in their colective TC consciousness...This is not a chess game ,mate... Chess game is played by two parties of equal skill and resources,withing preset rules obeyed by both sides....Cyprus problem had none of those elements...What you call reality is in fact total delusion.36 years is far too long to wipe out at will,motivated by some vague talk about democacy,human rights and EU principles...In TC collective consciousness the GC is still the same person who wanted to gift Cyprus to Greece,who massacred whole villages,who killed sick people in their care in hospitals,who made bus loads of people disappear....And in GC collective consciousness the TC is the same person who frustrated their Enosis dream,who collaborated with the bRITISH,WHO ARE THE REMNANTS OF THE OPPRESSIVE oTTOMANS,WHO ARE NOW STEALING THEIR LAND IN THE nORTH...OPPS...accidental caps lock...By all means let us strive to achieve all we can to satisfy the democracy and human rights and EU principles,and let us strive to satisfy as many people's right to return and property rights as possible,but dont ask the impossible from a wounded community who for 36 years lived by the generosity and kindness of its one and only benefactor...I have talked many times about my misgivings regarding the settlers,the loss of our unique Cypriot identity,and about Turkey putting her own interests above those of the TCs...There is no denial there...But nothing I or you will say will make an iota of difference to the average TC mentality...They would still rather see their children once a year for 3 weeks,instead of risking their physical and emotional health again...I have come to accept this...So as far as I am concerned the biggest obstacle to a lasting and realistic peaceful solution is the GC demand for Turkey's total removal of the picture...You yourself said Turkey was justifed in the intervension,that it should have happened back in 1963...I agree with you...We will talk about that in my response to your other posts....So if anything Turkey was too slow,tardy in fulfilling her obligations under international agreements...How and why the intervension turned into occupation we will discuss later,but ,I will ask again,why does the GC fear of future Turkish action rests more heavily on your shoulders than the TC fear of similar GC action???