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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:26 pm

only you, lets come and kick you out of your house in england and then sell it and see how you like it.

no one claims that it is ALL gc land.. most of it is.. not all but most of the land in the north belongs to gcs. the only difference is the gcs where forced to live in the tc houses owned in the south it was not by choice.

then the turkish government had a cleaver idea to sell our houses to idiots like you who will happily buy it and not care who was kicked out as long as you save some money.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:31 pm

only me wrote: ... it may surprise you to know that a lot of land exists in the North as well as the South that has always been owned by Turkish Cypriots.That comes as a surprise to a lot of people who believe only the GC's owned land................not so.


Of course the TCs have their own (carefully guarded) homes and land ... which is why they 'sell' those belonging to the GCs ....
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Postby humanist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:46 pm

that was a powerful and logical speech , thank you :)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:59 pm

Oracle wrote:
only me wrote: ... it may surprise you to know that a lot of land exists in the North as well as the South that has always been owned by Turkish Cypriots.That comes as a surprise to a lot of people who believe only the GC's owned land................not so.


Of course the TCs have their own (carefully guarded) homes and land ... which is why they 'sell' those belonging to the GCs ....



Todays calendar entry reads:

"if you add to the truth, (in reality) it subtracts. :lol:

I like it.
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:05 pm

nice. mind if i use it?
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:12 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
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boulio wrote:
So you are a mainland Greek? I am surprised that you have this mentality....The mentality is the one which makes you extra sensitive to the suffering of your own,but totally indifferent to the suffering of the others....The event I was describing happened sometime between Dec 63 and March 64...There was no Turkish raping of any women and girls at that time...But the bitterness and hatred in your heart towards all things Turkish and Turkish Cypriot makes you totally cold to the predicament of a 12 year old boy who, for some 48 hours, wandered around with a hangrenade in his pocket wondering whether he would have to pull the pin and kill himself, his mother and 3 sisters....And you are calling me pompous??? Thank you for showing your colours,.you are going onto my black list of people I will never respond to again... You dont belong to the human race,my friend...You are below contempt...


Are you stupid or just playing stupid?And the event that im describing happened from july 1974-august 1974 whats your point?there was suffering on both sides but for some reason you keep highlighting your suffuering and yes i admit the t/c may have suffered but so did the g/c and by constantly trying to elavate the t/c suffering to that of the g/c you are pompous and i could care less if you respond to me or not.


Please STOP IT man!!!
You should of have apologized to Bir, on the first place.... I just forgive you because you don't know that Bir is NOT AT ALL what you say.


Thank you for your sensitivity,dear Pyro...
Our friend boulio exemplifies why we are where we are,and why it will be almost impossible to solve Cyprob...And he is not alone...Unlike you and me,he is incapable of showing empathy and compasson to the "other" side...His mind is made up,his people are the only ones who REALLY suffered,and any mention of the other's pain or suffering makes him see red...The fact that he seems to know my earlier posts makes it worse for him...He does not want to hear anybody else's plight unless in the same breath you mention his people's plight as well,which he consideres to be so serious that no other plight must be allowed to enter into the equation...He doesn't realise that I am the same person,the person he cheered on when I was talking about the things he wanted to hear...It is my realisation that the GCs and some mainland Greeks as well has really no idea about the pain and loss of the TCs in this conflict which made me start talking about my community's experiences...Yet,I feel I can't be too hard on bulio,I have no idea where he is coming from...He might know people with personal trauma associated with our little conflict,or he might be a product of the brainwashing and hate mongering system we know so well from our own experiences.... :(


There's no need to explain me anything dear Bir. I 've read somewhere as to why you changed your stance,you explained it yourself, i noticed it also in your writtings. No problem at all my friend. I know you well enough, to trust you whatever you say. In fact your opinion about the wrongdoings of the GC side carries double weight for me, because i know you are honest. DON'T WORRY, IT'S OK. 8)
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:14 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:
only me wrote: ... it may surprise you to know that a lot of land exists in the North as well as the South that has always been owned by Turkish Cypriots.That comes as a surprise to a lot of people who believe only the GC's owned land................not so.


Of course the TCs have their own (carefully guarded) homes and land ... which is why they 'sell' those belonging to the GCs ....



Todays calendar entry reads:

"if you add to the truth, (in reality) it subtracts. :lol:

I like it.


That would depend on what you add.

For example, how would you define the above "always been owned by the TCs", huh?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:41 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
boulio wrote:
So you are a mainland Greek? I am surprised that you have this mentality....The mentality is the one which makes you extra sensitive to the suffering of your own,but totally indifferent to the suffering of the others....The event I was describing happened sometime between Dec 63 and March 64...There was no Turkish raping of any women and girls at that time...But the bitterness and hatred in your heart towards all things Turkish and Turkish Cypriot makes you totally cold to the predicament of a 12 year old boy who, for some 48 hours, wandered around with a hangrenade in his pocket wondering whether he would have to pull the pin and kill himself, his mother and 3 sisters....And you are calling me pompous??? Thank you for showing your colours,.you are going onto my black list of people I will never respond to again... You dont belong to the human race,my friend...You are below contempt...


Are you stupid or just playing stupid?And the event that im describing happened from july 1974-august 1974 whats your point?there was suffering on both sides but for some reason you keep highlighting your suffuering and yes i admit the t/c may have suffered but so did the g/c and by constantly trying to elavate the t/c suffering to that of the g/c you are pompous and i could care less if you respond to me or not.


Please STOP IT man!!!
You should of have apologized to Bir, on the first place.... I just forgive you because you don't know that Bir is NOT AT ALL what you say.


Thank you for your sensitivity,dear Pyro...
Our friend boulio exemplifies why we are where we are,and why it will be almost impossible to solve Cyprob...And he is not alone...Unlike you and me,he is incapable of showing empathy and compasson to the "other" side...His mind is made up,his people are the only ones who REALLY suffered,and any mention of the other's pain or suffering makes him see red...The fact that he seems to know my earlier posts makes it worse for him...He does not want to hear anybody else's plight unless in the same breath you mention his people's plight as well,which he consideres to be so serious that no other plight must be allowed to enter into the equation...He doesn't realise that I am the same person,the person he cheered on when I was talking about the things he wanted to hear...It is my realisation that the GCs and some mainland Greeks as well has really no idea about the pain and loss of the TCs in this conflict which made me start talking about my community's experiences...Yet,I feel I can't be too hard on bulio,I have no idea where he is coming from...He might know people with personal trauma associated with our little conflict,or he might be a product of the brainwashing and hate mongering system we know so well from our own experiences.... :(


There's no need to explain me anything dear Bir. I 've read somewhere as to why you changed your stance,you explained it yourself, i noticed it also in your writtings. No problem at all my friend. I know you well enough, to trust you whatever you say. In fact your opinion about the wrongdoings of the GC side carries double weight for me, because i know you are honest. DON'T WORRY, IT'S OK. 8)


And i appreciate you being so honest and open about your community's role in this conflict...You are like a breath of fresh air!... 8) 8) 8)
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:01 pm

YFred wrote:When a judge and a prosecuter during the court proceedings refers to a TC defending himself for an attack by one of your new dawn black shirts, as "The Turk", we know exactly what that means. Although the laws leave a lot to be desired, the enforces are something else. Kafene talk my arse.


I really doubt the judge referred to him as "The Turk" in any other sense other than asking for a clarification from the translator. What I asked you however was whether he received a fair trial or not.
And of course all your information is nothing but kafene talk because you don't live here and you know nothing of how law is enforced. :P
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:08 pm

paliometoxo wrote:nice. mind if i use it?


Be my guest. :twisted: It aint mine though. :lol:

Here is another:

'The easiest way to keep a secret is, without help' :lol: .
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