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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:25 am

YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.
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Re: Cyprus Problem for Dummies

Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 20, 2010 10:27 am

only me wrote:You've blown it especially now this Orams property case has been 'won' by your 'refugee'.!


Imagine if he'd 'lost'... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:02 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.



'Kahvehane konuşması'

My experience is that authorities in the RoC are very mindful of any double-dipping. I saw that NO WAY would they allow any TC who has benefitted from any esdeger/land exchange scheme to claim their land till a 'final-settlement' has been reached. I think, from what I have seen in the north, this is fair and just. It may take a long time but residents of the RoC have to wait too (as we have seen).
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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:13 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.

When a judge and a prosecuter during the court proceedings refers to a TC defending himself for an attack by one of your new dawn black shirts, as "The Turk", we know exactly what that means. Although the laws leave a lot to be desired, the enforces are something else. Kafene talk my arse.
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:20 am

YFred wrote:When a judge and a prosecuter during the court proceedings refers to a TC defending himself for an attack by one of your new dawn black shirts, as "The Turk", we know exactly what that means.


We know exactly what the flag on your avatar means. If you want to be treated like a Cypriot, start acting like one.
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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:22 am

denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.



'Kahvehane konuşması'

My experience is that authorities in the RoC are very mindful of any double-dipping. I saw that NO WAY would they allow any TC who has benefitted from any esdeger/land exchange scheme to claim their land till a 'final-settlement' has been reached. I think, from what I have seen in the north, this is fair and just. It may take a long time but residents of the RoC have to wait too (as we have seen).

The concern is not the ones who have had eshdeger, it is people like you and me who have not.
The idea that I am goint to uproot my family and move to South Cyprus in order to be able to claim my land is the real problem, or have to wait for years like you. Do you see what I mean?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:34 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.



'Kahvehane konuşması'

My experience is that authorities in the RoC are very mindful of any double-dipping. I saw that NO WAY would they allow any TC who has benefitted from any esdeger/land exchange scheme to claim their land till a 'final-settlement' has been reached. I think, from what I have seen in the north, this is fair and just. It may take a long time but residents of the RoC have to wait too (as we have seen).

The concern is not the ones who have had eshdeger, it is people like you and me who have not.
The idea that I am goint to uproot my family and move to South Cyprus in order to be able to claim my land is the real problem, or have to wait for years like you. Do you see what I mean?


I may be wrong, but the 'residing' in the RoC is for the TCs in the north. If you can prove that you have 'not' resided in Cyprus well before 1974, you will be entitled to your land/property. It is this 'proof' which takes a bit of time. Mind you, I never stated that I wished to move in to our ancestral home. Too many hers now. :lol: You know what thats like. :roll:
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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:36 am

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.



'Kahvehane konuşması'

My experience is that authorities in the RoC are very mindful of any double-dipping. I saw that NO WAY would they allow any TC who has benefitted from any esdeger/land exchange scheme to claim their land till a 'final-settlement' has been reached. I think, from what I have seen in the north, this is fair and just. It may take a long time but residents of the RoC have to wait too (as we have seen).

The concern is not the ones who have had eshdeger, it is people like you and me who have not.
The idea that I am goint to uproot my family and move to South Cyprus in order to be able to claim my land is the real problem, or have to wait for years like you. Do you see what I mean?


I may be wrong, but the 'residing' in the RoC is for the TCs in the north. If you can prove that you have 'not' resided in Cyprus well before 1974, you will be entitled to your land/property. It is this 'proof' which takes a bit of time. Mind you, I never stated that I wished to move in to our ancestral home. Too many hers now. :lol: You know what thats like. :roll:

Are you not in that situation. No esdeger and moved out of cyprus before 74 and not resided in Cyprus since 74. How does that take years?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:54 am

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
YFred wrote:At least Bir does support TC viewpoint as well, unlike the GC arse licker Kikapooo.
It is not just a matter of balancing act. There is a huge amount which needs to change in the roc and yet our friendly GCs friends are oblivious to it. All you have to do is see how the judges treat the TC claims vs the GC claims. It is not rocket science to see that roc at present is not going to be acceptable to 95% of TCs. Tcs have to wait until there is peace agreement and it seem GCs do not. If that is not a racist system, I don't know what is. They can continue to bury their heads in the sand and partition is what they are going to get in the end. The can then take their anger on the Oramses of this world all they like. If Muhtar X's mentality is like the mentality of GCs on this forum, I can't see an agreement in the next million years.


Which judges are you referring to? The Republics judges? If yes then give us just one case where a Turkish Cypriot did not receive a fair trial.
Listen here we have laws. It is a different thing to go on court and not receive a fair trial and a different thing to say this or that law is not fair for you as a TC. If the latter is the case ANY TC can apply to the supreme court and challenge the law. And if he is still not satisfied then he can go to European Court.
Imo what you said is just hearsay and kafene kunushma.



'Kahvehane konuşması'

My experience is that authorities in the RoC are very mindful of any double-dipping. I saw that NO WAY would they allow any TC who has benefitted from any esdeger/land exchange scheme to claim their land till a 'final-settlement' has been reached. I think, from what I have seen in the north, this is fair and just. It may take a long time but residents of the RoC have to wait too (as we have seen).

The concern is not the ones who have had eshdeger, it is people like you and me who have not.
The idea that I am goint to uproot my family and move to South Cyprus in order to be able to claim my land is the real problem, or have to wait for years like you. Do you see what I mean?


I may be wrong, but the 'residing' in the RoC is for the TCs in the north. If you can prove that you have 'not' resided in Cyprus well before 1974, you will be entitled to your land/property. It is this 'proof' which takes a bit of time. Mind you, I never stated that I wished to move in to our ancestral home. Too many hers now. :lol: You know what thats like. :roll:

Are you not in that situation. No esdeger and moved out of cyprus before 74 and not resided in Cyprus since 74. How does that take years?



The same way it takes the residents of the RoC (thousands of them) to get their deeds. I have mine. But more to come. We have not yet dealt with the 'ancestral' home yet. Part occupied by Yiallousans (I believe and part by Lapithosians (Lapta). The home had three inner houses each independent of the other. One with a hanay crumbled down (kerpic). The other two has refugees living in them.

Just like Huseyin Mani's house. They too had an 'inner' house. His brother Yusuf (sagir) lived in that one.
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Postby only me » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:16 pm

Dear DT,
Slap my wrists! At least I can admit I was wrong....sorry an Evil Mr President.
I was so steamed up after listening to that American claptrap of lies that I completely forgot you had an evil President of an illegal but unfortunately recognised state.
I'm not telling anyone to buy property by the way and it may surprise you to know that a lot of land exists in the North as well as the South that has always been owned by Turkish Cypriots.That comes as a surprise to a lot of people who believe only the GC's owned land................not so.
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