Oracle wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Oracle wrote:Pyrpolizer wrote:Yeah Stella mou but it was his DAD who gave him the Granade... it was not something political coming from the TMT it was a matter of life or death for a whole family.And the poor boy had the trigger in his hand... that's schocking...
Empathy should go without saying in this matter, come on guys.
I thought he said his dad was
in the TMT ....
(I find the whole episode abhorrent and despise
all those who torture the weak and young. It is the saddest aspect of our primitive instincts ...
)
Yes he was, what i meant it was not part of the political maneuver or of the official TMT fear spreading policy. Jeez you don't do such things on purpose to your own family.
Read his statement. Sounds like his father wasn't "conventional" in
any sense ...I feel for BirKibrisli, personally, and as a mother of a 12 year old.
My hate is for the members of the TMT who destroyed Cyprus by destroying their
own people ... including children, in this manner exemplified by Bir!
Oracle,
My father,being a school teacher,had little choice in the matter...The TMT was formed to counter The EOKA...We sincerely believed our lives were in danger....That sooner or later the EOKA would turn their weapons on us,TCs...All over the island and very much in a hurry cells of underground fighters were formed...In each local area the job of organising and commanding the local branch fell on the school teachers...Father was not the only one...The TMT had a lot of faults and it is true the organisation was used By Denktash,who was amongst the 4 original founders of the TMT,to advance his Taksim cause,but I have no idea if I would be alive today if it wasnt for the TMT either...Because there was a concentrated attack on our Nicosia enclave by GC fighters,and only the TMT guns and training made it possible for the TCs to keep them at bay...would they have killed the children,raped the women and girls,had they overrun our positions,we will never know...But Father obviously believed they would,hence his instructions to me...This is why i keep harping on about nothing being black and white in this conflict...I understand that you do not want to accept that your side can be capable of the attrocities you so rightly condemn,but whenever you come out and attack the Turkish soldiers and the TCs you are rubbing salt in the wounds of others who have been on the receiving side...My experiences were not amongst the worse...Others have seen and experienced much more horrifying things,on both sides....But I had my fair share of them...
By the way,I described elsewhere how my father fell out with the TMT,largely because he didnt approve of their political and other less savoury activities...Believe it or not FAther was NOT for Partition...He believed we could make a good go of becoming one people one nation eventually...while he was trying to leave the TMT they set him up in a restaurant and a hitman turned up to kill Father...By some miracle he turned out to be one of my father's star recruits from some years earlier,so Father lived...To be fair,TMT denied the orders came from above,and blamed the local commander who had a personal grudge against Father... I didn't believe that for a long time but evidence have come my way during the last few years which points the finger at the local TMT man...Anyway,after than incident Father was allowed to leave TMT,and by 1963 he was no longer a member....
As you can imagine I dont like talking about these personal experiences very much...I mentioned the handgrenade incident to convince GR and perhaps others,that without the real fear installed in the TCs by the events of 63/64 the TMT had no chance of forcing anyone to leave their homes and seek shelter in enclaves,just to advance the TMT cause...There were also massacres of 3 entire TC villages which didnt help matters much...These are not propaganda points,they are facts Oracle...You can deny them,bu that will not change anything...My generation of Cypriots was probably the unluckiest...We were not even allowed to be children...I have a 10 year old son now,and sometimes I look at his life and envy it...His biggest point of stress is how many hours of Nintendo or playstation games he is allowed to play in a week...And I never bought him a toy gun,he is not allowed to play with them...
