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[boulio]

Thanks,bulio,for your empathy and compassion for that particular 12 year old and his predicament...Your attitude sums up why we can never live together again as one people one nation...The best we can hope for is some loose federation where people with mentality such as yours cannot hurt each other any longer...


You nd vp dont address the point i was trying to make,and firstly im not a g/c but of mainland greek and secondly what mentality do i have?you at least had a hand grenade what did the women and girls have against the turkish raping?

Answer that you pompous ass before you pass judgment on anyone.

[Kikapu]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

Actually Pyro, VP made a lot of contribution to my thread on the BBF plan, which I thank him for, because it gave me all the opportunities to cover all his concerns, which I did, but from the beginning he has refused it because the plan did not allow for partition and VP likes to keep that option open, so that next time when there is another constitutional crises like in 1963, the TCs will be able to walk out of the government and declare independence as a Confederate state, and Bingo, you will have a recognised state and also in the EU. Turkey's and NeoPartitionist's dream come true.!

Yee of little Faith!!!

One day soon I am going to read that blasted BBF plan but only as a last resort and if I have nothing else to read.
Now, that's unlikely.

If you haven't read it, which I already knew that you have never read it, then how can you make the following comments.?

As to Kikapoo's plan, it stinks to high heaven or kingdom come or what ever you like.
Can you really take Kick baby's plan seriously and discuss it? Have you guys got nothing better to do in life.

[YFred]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

Actually Pyro, VP made a lot of contribution to my thread on the BBF plan, which I thank him for, because it gave me all the opportunities to cover all his concerns, which I did, but from the beginning he has refused it because the plan did not allow for partition and VP likes to keep that option open, so that next time when there is another constitutional crises like in 1963, the TCs will be able to walk out of the government and declare independence as a Confederate state, and Bingo, you will have a recognised state and also in the EU. Turkey's and NeoPartitionist's dream come true.!

Yee of little Faith!!!

One day soon I am going to read that blasted BBF plan but only as a last resort and if I have nothing else to read.
Now, that's unlikely.

If you haven't read it, which I already knew that you have never read it, then how can you make the following comments.?

Total waste of time. As to Kikapoo's plan, it stinks to high heaven or kingdom come or what ever you like.
Can you really take Kick baby's plan seriously and discuss it? Have you guys got nothing better to do in life.

By the character of the writer, what else? There is more than one way skinning a cat old boy, what?
Name like Kickapoo what else can it be?

[denizaksulu]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

Actually Pyro, VP made a lot of contribution to my thread on the BBF plan, which I thank him for, because it gave me all the opportunities to cover all his concerns, which I did, but from the beginning he has refused it because the plan did not allow for partition and VP likes to keep that option open, so that next time when there is another constitutional crises like in 1963, the TCs will be able to walk out of the government and declare independence as a Confederate state, and Bingo, you will have a recognised state and also in the EU. Turkey's and NeoPartitionist's dream come true.!

Yee of little Faith!!!

One day soon I am going to read that blasted BBF plan but only as a last resort and if I have nothing else to read.
Now, that's unlikely.

If you haven't read it, which I already knew that you have never read it, then how can you make the following comments.?

Total waste of time. As to Kikapoo's plan, it stinks to high heaven or kingdom come or what ever you like.
Can you really take Kick baby's plan seriously and discuss it? Have you guys got nothing better to do in life.

By the character of the writer, what else? There is more than one way skinning a cat old boy, what?
Name like Kickapoo what else can it be?

A name like Kickaoo? What about it?

http://www.native-languages.org/kickapoo.htm

Do not judge by the clothes they wear.

[Kikapu]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

Actually Pyro, VP made a lot of contribution to my thread on the BBF plan, which I thank him for, because it gave me all the opportunities to cover all his concerns, which I did, but from the beginning he has refused it because the plan did not allow for partition and VP likes to keep that option open, so that next time when there is another constitutional crises like in 1963, the TCs will be able to walk out of the government and declare independence as a Confederate state, and Bingo, you will have a recognised state and also in the EU. Turkey's and NeoPartitionist's dream come true.!

Yee of little Faith!!!

One day soon I am going to read that blasted BBF plan but only as a last resort and if I have nothing else to read.
Now, that's unlikely.

If you haven't read it, which I already knew that you have never read it, then how can you make the following comments.?

Total waste of time. As to Kikapoo's plan, it stinks to high heaven or kingdom come or what ever you like.
Can you really take Kick baby's plan seriously and discuss it? Have you guys got nothing better to do in life.

By the character of the writer, what else? There is more than one way skinning a cat old boy, what?
NAme like Kickapoo what else can it be?

So, you are one of those ignorant people who judges a book by it's cover!

I thought you were just plain ignorant myself............period, because you never read and comprehend what others write or direct you to read to broaden your horizon a little, but instead, you prefer to remain an ignorant peasant.!

Explains a lot about yourself, YFred.!

[Pyrpolizer]

The trouble is,dear Pyro,I believe Kikapu has got it wrong...Turkey will never choose the EU over the trnc...Not because of the TC interests of course...The AKP will not do it because they really do not want to get into the EU,they pretend to keep the ARMY at bay...The Cyprus situation is ideal for them in this regard...And when the nationalists return to power eventually they would not do it because for them it is unthinkable on Turkish nationalism grounds...Their raison d'etre...So those who are hoping for EU presure to make Turkey capitulate are simply fooling themselves...The status quo will continue,the TCs will become extinct,except those who live in the South or diaspora...Till one day some lunatic from the Roc or Turkey decides the time has come for an all out war/final solution....More pain,suffering and loss for Cypriots...

Times are changing dear Bir, and what counts today and what will certainly count in the next decades, is not nationalists or the Army but Economic power, and globalisation. This is what the EU is all about.

Perhaps you will be proven wrong in your predictions, perhaps you will be proven right. The same goes for my predictions and Kikapu's predictions. However there is a common denominator to all these, namely your highlighted red part. Kikapu chose his own way to warn his community (which looks as if it is a support for the GCs). Imo it all derives from the fact that he sees his own community constantly driving for almost 50 years towards losing it all. Should he be supportive to "their struggle" or should he be "warning"? That's the big question.

[BirKibrisli]

Thanks,bulio,for your empathy and compassion for that particular 12 year old and his predicament...Your attitude sums up why we can never live together again as one people one nation...The best we can hope for is some loose federation where people with mentality such as yours cannot hurt each other any longer...


You nd vp dont address the point i was trying to make,and firstly im not a g/c but of mainland greek and secondly what mentality do i have?you at least had a hand grenade what did the women and girls have against the turkish raping?

Answer that you pompous ass before you pass judgment on anyone.

So you are a mainland Greek? I am surprised that you have this mentality....The mentality is the one which makes you extra sensitive to the suffering of your own,but totally indifferent to the suffering of the others....The event I was describing happened sometime between Dec 63 and March 64...There was no Turkish raping of any women and girls at that time...But the bitterness and hatred in your heart towards all things Turkish and Turkish Cypriot makes you totally cold to the predicament of a 12 year old boy who, for some 48 hours, wandered around with a hangrenade in his pocket wondering whether he would have to pull the pin and kill himself, his mother and 3 sisters....And you are calling me pompous??? Thank you for showing your colours,.you are going onto my black list of people I will never respond to again... You dont belong to the human race,my friend...You are below contempt...

[Pyrpolizer]

Btw i consider those thoughts that the occupied part of Cyprus will be flooded by millions of settlers as "a fear spreading tactic". We know very well there are about 80-100K settlers right now compared to about 70-80K original TC's. The vast majority of those settlers came because they were given free properties homes and and lands. There are no more free homes properties and lands to give them...The economy cannot absorb any more cheap labourers from Turkey...

[YFred]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

Actually Pyro, VP made a lot of contribution to my thread on the BBF plan, which I thank him for, because it gave me all the opportunities to cover all his concerns, which I did, but from the beginning he has refused it because the plan did not allow for partition and VP likes to keep that option open, so that next time when there is another constitutional crises like in 1963, the TCs will be able to walk out of the government and declare independence as a Confederate state, and Bingo, you will have a recognised state and also in the EU. Turkey's and NeoPartitionist's dream come true.!

Yee of little Faith!!!

One day soon I am going to read that blasted BBF plan but only as a last resort and if I have nothing else to read.
Now, that's unlikely.

If you haven't read it, which I already knew that you have never read it, then how can you make the following comments.?

Total waste of time. As to Kikapoo's plan, it stinks to high heaven or kingdom come or what ever you like.
Can you really take Kick baby's plan seriously and discuss it? Have you guys got nothing better to do in life.

By the character of the writer, what else? There is more than one way skinning a cat old boy, what?
NAme like Kickapoo what else can it be?

So, you are one of those ignorant people who judges a book by it's cover!

I thought you were just plain ignorant myself............period, because you never read and comprehend what others write or direct you to read to broaden your horizon a little, but instead, you prefer to remain an ignorant peasant.!

Explains a lot about yourself, YFred.!

Reading your posts is a bit like listening to Ibrahim Tatlises songs, which I avoid like the plage. Totally irrelevant.
Ignorance is something you are expert at old boy, what?
Tell me about it.

[DT.]

Btw i consider those thoughts that the occupied part of Cyprus will be flooded by millions of settlers as "a fear spreading tactic". We know very well there are about 80-100K settlers right now compared to about 70-80K original TC's. The vast majority of those settlers came because they were given free properties homes and and lands. There are no more free homes properties and lands to give them...The economy cannot absorb any more cheap labourers from Turkey...

What economy? 1/3 of them are civil servants paid by Turkey and the rest of the economy is made up of scraps that were made by selling our properties. As far as I'm conerned the only one doing any work over there is iceman.