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[BirKibrisli]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

I have read it with interest and search for just one point where he supports or even defends the TC stance or runs the Gcs down like he does the TCs, he is biased and has a warped and very sick viewpoint on matters, in his eyes the TCs are wrong and the GCs are right end of story.

I don't agree.His solution proposals on many points go against his own principles (read his previous post as to which they are) in order to satisfy the TC wants. On the other hand a person who wears a "biting shark" type of TURKISH flag like you, should not complain that Kikapu is not advocating the TC stance.

Furthermore If you analyze the effects of the Cyprob on the two communities from the 60s until today you will discover that the TCs were always the bigest losers of the game. The Gcs were also losing but the TCs were always losing much more. It's like the chess game that Kikapu talked about. The one who loses more loses everything in the end...In one of his recent responses he told you this

"Turkey will decide on the north and not you when the time comes to choose between the north or the EU. My bet is, she will choose the EU…

Instead of taking his response as a warning for the TC side that may result on them losing it all, you took it as if Kikapu is supporting the GCs!

The trouble is,dear Pyro,I believe Kikapu has got it wrong...Turkey will never choose the EU over the trnc...Not because of the TC interests of course...The AKP will not do it because they really do not want to get into the EU,they pretend to keep the ARMY at bay...The Cyprus situation is ideal for them in this regard...And when the nationalists return to power eventually they would not do it because for them it is unthinkable on Turkish nationalism grounds...Their raison d'etre...So those who are hoping for EU presure to make Turkey capitulate are simply fooling themselves...The status quo will continue,the TCs will become extinct,except those who live in the South or diaspora...Till one day some lunatic from the Roc or Turkey decides the time has come for an all out war/final solution....More pain,suffering and loss for Cypriots...

[Viewpoint]

VP you are not reading carefully. Read all of Kikapu's solution proposals, and you will find out.

The only difference between Kikapu and others is that he doesn't excuse everything based on the events of the 60's. You know very well how Kikapu was affected perhaps much more than the average TC was.

I have read it with interest and search for just one point where he supports or even defends the TC stance or runs the Gcs down like he does the TCs, he is biased and has a warped and very sick viewpoint on matters, in his eyes the TCs are wrong and the GCs are right end of story.

I don't agree.His solution proposals on many points go against his own principles (read his previous post as to which they are) in order to satisfy the TC wants. On the other hand a person who wears a "biting shark" type of TURKISH flag like you, should not complain that Kikapu is not advocating the TC stance.

Furthermore If you analyze the effects of the Cyprob on the two communities from the 60s until today you will discover that the TCs were always the bigest losers of the game. The Gcs were also losing but the TCs were always losing much more. It's like the chess game that Kikapu talked about. The one who loses more loses everything in the end...In one of his recent responses he told you this

"Turkey will decide on the north and not you when the time comes to choose between the north or the EU. My bet is, she will choose the EU…

Instead of taking his response as a warning for the TC side that may result on them losing it all, you took it as if Kikapu is supporting the GCs!

Can you kindly provide examples of where kiakpu actually supports the TCs stance to back upp your claim that he is unbiased and goes out of his way to support TCs.

[YFred]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

[Get Real!]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

You should save your comments till 2012 when the RoC takes over the EU (right after Spain) for a couple of years!

[YFred]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

You should save you comments till 2012 when the Roc takes over the EU (right after Spain) for a couple of years!

Really I thought it was 6 months each. You cheating again. Is that your new Eukritas plan to take over the eu?
You have not said what your plans are for when the roc opens her port to all the turkallos that will flood Limasol. God help you all.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

Don't be mischievous,YFred...The GCs are paranoid enough regarding Turkey's motives....You want to give them a heart atack???

It is actually 75 million! But not all of them would want to move to Cyprus...Just the adventurest 10 million or so...

[YFred]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

Don't be mischievous,YFred...The GCs are paranoid enough regarding Turkey's motives....You want to give them a heart atack???

It is actually 75 million! But not all of them would want to move to Cyprus...Just the adventurest 10 million or so...

Bir, there is no motives or plan. They will just flood the south and take over the whole of cyprus through democratic means. A little bit like the north and what they did to Hatay in Syria.

[B25]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

Don't be mischievous,YFred...The GCs are paranoid enough regarding Turkey's motives....You want to give them a heart atack???

It is actually 75 million! But not all of them would want to move to Cyprus...Just the adventurest 10 million or so...

Don't jizz yourselves just yet, Turkey will never make the EU, not now not never and if by some miracle and someones fuckup she did, then there would be some derogation on poor uneducated fuckedup peasants decsending on Cyprus.

From yfred I can expect this sort of bollocks, but Bir you surprise me, again you show your true colours. Well done, now no one will take you seriously.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

Don't be mischievous,YFred...The GCs are paranoid enough regarding Turkey's motives....You want to give them a heart atack???

It is actually 75 million! But not all of them would want to move to Cyprus...Just the adventurest 10 million or so...

Don't jizz yourselves just yet, Turkey will never make the EU, not now not never and if by some miracle and someones fuckup she did, then there would be some derogation on poor uneducated fuckedup peasants decsending on Cyprus.

From yfred I can expect this sort of bollocks, but Bir you surprise me, again you show your true colours. Well done, now no one will take you seriously.

No one is taking me seriously anyway,B 25...So I thought I might as well join in on the fun...I agree with you,though. Turkey will never enter the EU...One because Turkey doesnt want to,and two,because the EU doesnt want them too...simple as...So dont you worry about a thing...Keep talking about democracy,human rights and EU principles,and see how far that will get us towards a solution...for your information,those "uneducated fucked up peasants" as you call them, have already descended on Cyprus...At present they number about 700,000 and fast growing...Another 20 years of the status quo and there will be close to 1.5 million...The TCs at least speak their language...You guys will have to learn Turkish fast...

[YFred]

Bir don't be so pessimistic. Turkey will get into EU no matter what and roc cannot stop her. Sure she will open her ports to roc but the real worry is what happens when the roc has to open her port to all the turks. 70 blinkin million of them. Now that is a day I wish to be alive and see.

Don't be mischievous,YFred...The GCs are paranoid enough regarding Turkey's motives....You want to give them a heart atack???

It is actually 75 million! But not all of them would want to move to Cyprus...Just the adventurest 10 million or so...

Don't jizz yourselves just yet, Turkey will never make the EU, not now not never and if by some miracle and someones fuckup she did, then there would be some derogation on poor uneducated fuckedup peasants decsending on Cyprus.

From yfred I can expect this sort of bollocks, but Bir you surprise me, again you show your true colours. Well done, now no one will take you seriously.

Derog furkin what? What happened to your ideals of true democracy and all that crap.