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[DT.]

No I did not get arrested but do you think psychological pressure is easier to stomach? I am glad you did not dispute the fact that this kind of pressure was exerted on people that had a different outlook of things.

I don't see much difference to the same pressure you and your "folks" exert on all others that disagree with you as fascists and extremists.

Now on the thread subject, do you see the difference of poeple acting independently and an administration acting within its framework and procedures to punish people who insult the leader.

[denizaksulu]

I did not hear this expression before either..

Perhaps another import through the settlers. I wonder if Tim has heard of the expression?

[Piratis]

Halil
Halil,i do not approve what they did but we are talking about something different here..
As you know the boys have been detained for seven days until police completes the investigation..
Do you believe that this was necessary?do you think they would have interfered with the investigation in any way had they not been jailed for seven days?

Iceman, do you know what exactly they said against Talat?

No i dont,but i will try to find out and post here..

Have they said he is a cold blood murderer, like Loukoudin Charalambous of Cyprus Mail and Bananiot have been saying during the last 5 years about Papadopoulos?

Kifeas
Calling someone cold blooded murderer is one thing (because it's no more than an accusation)
using dirty language to swear at his person/family/mother etc is another...

Yes, it is very different. Using swear words is nothing compared to trying to manufacture a whole story and present somebody as a murderer.

For example, a known scum, Fanos Drousiotis, who used to be funded directly by the occupation regime and used to be a member here, has produced a lot of dirt against Papadopoulos, even more than Bananiot does. Still nobody arrested him for insulting the president.

If Talat wanted to bother, and most serious politicians wouldn't, the most he should have done is to sue those people and/or facebook for defamation.

[Kikapu]

Halil
Halil,i do not approve what they did but we are talking about something different here..
As you know the boys have been detained for seven days until police completes the investigation..
Do you believe that this was necessary?do you think they would have interfered with the investigation in any way had they not been jailed for seven days?

This is how one gains control over it's citizens Iceman, when a state goes heavy handed in dealing with "culprits" that they fear as it is/was practiced in Communist states, Banana Republic states, Fascist states and as well us Democratic states like the USA when Macartyism was applied in the 50's, so that they can make examples of those free thinkers, so as to keep the rest of the citizens in line, which brings us back once again to the story of "Animal Farm", and in this case, those who wanted to exercise their freedom of speech which Halil always tells us that is allowed in the north, are being punished by being held against their will for exercising those rights, so they thought those rights that they had. Now, if personal threats were made against Talat and his family, that is beyond the scope of Freedom of Speech and the boys should be held accountable, but by attacking his character, big deal. "Poor" George Bush, who has been attacked for the last 8 years by the Left and the Right, will be missed when he leaves office in couple of months. "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words will never hurt me", and if Talat is anywhere the leader he thinks he is, he should have already stepped in to have these two boys released for attacks on his character, and the fact that he has not done so, shows his lack of leadership qualities.

[denizaksulu]

I remember calling someone 'Dazlak' on this forum. Do you think I am safe to travel to the North this year?

[Oracle]

No I did not get arrested but do you think psychological pressure is easier to stomach? I am glad you did not dispute the fact that this kind of pressure was exerted on people that had a different outlook of things.

May I suggest you see Mikellides for that guilt complex ....

[Bananiot]

I have already seen him but why do you think it is so unacceptable for anyone to see a psychiatrist? Do you always hold it against anyone that visits a psychiatrist? Is that a good attitute on your behalf?

[Kikapu]

I have already seen him but why do you think it is so unacceptable for anyone to see a psychiatrist? Do you always hold it against anyone that visits a psychiatrist? Is that a good attitute on your behalf?

I agree with Bananiot on this issue. It should not be seen as a negative to see a psychiatrist. It is just one more form of health care method provided to those who may need it to be healthy. One does not need to be "nuts" to see a psychiatrist in today's everyday pressures and complicated lives that we all lead.

[Oracle]

I have already seen him but why do you think it is so unacceptable for anyone to see a psychiatrist? Do you always hold it against anyone that visits a psychiatrist? Is that a good attitute on your behalf?

Since I suggested you pay him a visit, it's ludicrous of you to presume I would find it unacceptable for anyone to see a psychiatrist. As for the rest of your erroneous assumptions, I would excuse you on the basis that you really aren't well.

However, I do think that a lot of peoples' perceived ailments can be sorted by keeping busy, eating well and adopting a positive frame of mind.

Real psychiatric disorders (e.g. schizophrenia) are often easy to diagnose even by a GP (and then referred) ... it's those perceived self-indulgent ones that are the bread and butter of "therapists" though.

[xxNilxx]

They always beat and arrest people for their political beliefs.
Few months ago they arrested and beated 4 tc boys harsly for writing 'turkish troops out of Cyprus' they didn't charge them for the grifitti, they charged them for their political beliefs. It's dangerous to write stuff against politicians/government on facebook especially if they live in the north of Cyprus ... the police are all Turks anyway.. well majority. Only about 90 000 tcs really left.