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Postby Kikapu » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:44 pm

halil wrote: It would have been better to wait for a solution to be reached before trying to benefit from the natural resources .


Why wait. I think by knowing if there are resources there, there will be incentives for both sides to negotiate for a solution more effectively.

Halil wrote:It should be the two people themselves who should decide on how to benefit from these resources by means of their common will and cooperation.


It has already been decided, so I thought, that we will have only one citizenship, therefore there will only be ONE people in Cyprus. The fact that there are various numbers of ethnic groups in Cyprus, is irrelevant. All should stand to gain one way or another as citizens of Cyprus and not because which ethnic group one belongs to.
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Postby DT. » Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:22 am

halil wrote:It would have been better to wait for a solution to be reached before trying to benefit from the natural resources .

It should be the two people themselves who should decide on how to benefit from these resources by means of their common will and cooperation.


JUST LIKE WE DECIDED TOGETHER HOW TO BENEFIT FROM OUR HOMES IN THE NORTH? DID TURKEY CONSULT US BEFORE EXPLOITING THIS NATURAL RESOURCE OF WHICH I HAVE A KOCAN FOR?
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Postby halil » Thu Dec 04, 2008 11:01 am

DT. wrote:
halil wrote:It would have been better to wait for a solution to be reached before trying to benefit from the natural resources .

It should be the two people themselves who should decide on how to benefit from these resources by means of their common will and cooperation.


JUST LIKE WE DECIDED TOGETHER HOW TO BENEFIT FROM OUR HOMES IN THE NORTH? DID TURKEY CONSULT US BEFORE EXPLOITING THIS NATURAL RESOURCE OF WHICH I HAVE A KOCAN FOR?


What ever happened in Cyprus happened because TC's factor never counted . We know better , we do , what ever we plan ..... go and do it again .............
There is no difference between Turkey and ROC .... what are they trying to do .... I have a power ..... why we should take TC's benefits , or .........

wrong time , wrong counting again and again ............
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Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 04, 2008 12:02 pm

halil wrote:
DT. wrote:
halil wrote:It would have been better to wait for a solution to be reached before trying to benefit from the natural resources .

It should be the two people themselves who should decide on how to benefit from these resources by means of their common will and cooperation.


JUST LIKE WE DECIDED TOGETHER HOW TO BENEFIT FROM OUR HOMES IN THE NORTH? DID TURKEY CONSULT US BEFORE EXPLOITING THIS NATURAL RESOURCE OF WHICH I HAVE A KOCAN FOR?


What ever happened in Cyprus happened because TC's factor never counted . We know better , we do , what ever we plan ..... go and do it again .............
There is no difference between Turkey and ROC .... what are they trying to do .... I have a power ..... why we should take TC's benefits , or .........

wrong time , wrong counting again and again ............


Once again the TCs are only thinking of themselves and showing little regard for Cyprus as it faces further war-provocations from Turkey ...

Keep showing your solidarity for Turkey, you will get your just rewards!
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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:57 pm

Well said Oracle.
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Postby askimwos » Thu Dec 04, 2008 5:50 pm

Halil, sorry but this is exactly where TCs are wrong. You cannot have everything mate, you surely have to stop being passively force-fed with all those nonsense that Turkey is serving you for its own benefit and start acting as TCs and not as Turkey's puppets.
How would you characterise a TC that has been exploiting GC properties by selling them to foreigners and at the same time demands his propertiy in the south to be returned to him? Greedy?, Immoral? You choose.
Turkey's and subsequently Talat's noises about the the ROC oil exploration program is no different than the above example.

This sort of mentality is seen in almost every aspect of TC demands on the Cyprus problem. For example Talat has been talking about political equality which Christofias accepts. However, it seems that there is a serious problem on how the two sides understand political equality. The GC side insists that political equality means the right of TCs to have an effective participation in every decision making process and at every level of Public Administration. On the other hand TCs go a step further and insist on equal numerical representation at almost all levels regardless of the fact that their community makes up only 18% of the population. This is no different than saying that Cyprus should have the same number of EMPs as Germany in the European Parliament.
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Postby halil » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:37 pm

PRESIDENT TALAT SENDS LETTER TO UNSC PROTESTING OIL EXPLORATION ACTIVIES BY GR CYPRIOT ADMINISTRATION

President Mehmet Ali Talat has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon concerning oil and natural gas exploration activities being carried out by the Greek Cypriot Administration.

In his letter to the UN Secretary General, President Mehmet Ali Talat stated that ongoing oil exploration activities off the coast of Cyprus by the Greek Cypriot Administration was a gross violation of the fundamental Turkish Cypriot rights and interests stemming from the 1960 Cyprus constitution.

The President said that the provocative activities, which were going on at a time when comprehensive negotiations were continuing, were part of the Greek Cypriot Side’s chronic efforts to settle the Cyprus Problem outside the framework of talks and to smear Turkey’s reputation.

Drawing attention to the fact that a sensitive issue like the jurisdiction of continental shelf had been an important aspect of negotiations carried out in 2004, the President said that Annan Plan had envisaged settling the issue following a solution to the Cyprus Problem.

He said the Greek Cypriot Administration which claimed to be the sole government on the island but only represented the Greek Cypriots had no authority to carry out such exploration or negotiate international treaties.

Pointing out that the issue was not only limited to Cyprus, President Talat said that neighboring Turkey too had legal rights and interests over the Eastern Mediterranean.

Also touching upon a letter of protest sent by the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias to the UN Chief accusing Turkish warships of harassing exploration ships, the President said that such accusations were baseless and did not reflect the truth.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Administration had signed territorial water limitation agreements with Egypt in 2003 and Lebanon in 2007, President Talat said that Turkish Cypriots had objected to this on the grounds that it had “violated their legal rights in the Eastern Mediterranean.”

The President also pointed out that the Greek Cypriot Side’s activities were a violation of international law.
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Postby coremax » Fri Dec 05, 2008 3:37 pm

It's got to be hard being Ban Ki Moon, it's like being the head of the complaints department at a local Wal-Mart...
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:08 pm

halil wrote:PRESIDENT TALAT SENDS LETTER TO UNSC PROTESTING OIL EXPLORATION ACTIVIES BY GR CYPRIOT ADMINISTRATION

President Mehmet Ali Talat has sent a letter to the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon concerning oil and natural gas exploration activities being carried out by the Greek Cypriot Administration.

In his letter to the UN Secretary General, President Mehmet Ali Talat stated that ongoing oil exploration activities off the coast of Cyprus by the Greek Cypriot Administration was a gross violation of the fundamental Turkish Cypriot rights and interests stemming from the 1960 Cyprus constitution.

The President said that the provocative activities, which were going on at a time when comprehensive negotiations were continuing, were part of the Greek Cypriot Side’s chronic efforts to settle the Cyprus Problem outside the framework of talks and to smear Turkey’s reputation.

Drawing attention to the fact that a sensitive issue like the jurisdiction of continental shelf had been an important aspect of negotiations carried out in 2004, the President said that Annan Plan had envisaged settling the issue following a solution to the Cyprus Problem.

He said the Greek Cypriot Administration which claimed to be the sole government on the island but only represented the Greek Cypriots had no authority to carry out such exploration or negotiate international treaties.

Pointing out that the issue was not only limited to Cyprus, President Talat said that neighboring Turkey too had legal rights and interests over the Eastern Mediterranean.

Also touching upon a letter of protest sent by the Greek Cypriot leader Demetris Christofias to the UN Chief accusing Turkish warships of harassing exploration ships, the President said that such accusations were baseless and did not reflect the truth.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Administration had signed territorial water limitation agreements with Egypt in 2003 and Lebanon in 2007, President Talat said that Turkish Cypriots had objected to this on the grounds that it had “violated their legal rights in the Eastern Mediterranean.”

The President also pointed out that the Greek Cypriot Side’s activities were a violation of international law.


In his letter to the UN Secretary General, President Mehmet Ali Talat stated that ongoing oil exploration activities off the coast of Cyprus by the Greek Cypriot Administration was a gross violation of the fundamental Turkish Cypriot rights and interests stemming from the 1960 Cyprus constitution.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Let me guess. Talat sent this complaint to Ban Ki Moon as a President of the TC's and the "trnc" to complain about the rights of the TC's in the 1960 constitution. :lol: :lol: :lol:

I did not know, that 1960 constitution gave Talat a Presidency over anything or anyone. :lol: :lol: :lol:

All the rest of his complaints are just too funny to respond to in "Cyprus Problem". Perhaps we can move this page to the "Jokes" section. :idea: :idea:


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Postby MrH » Fri Dec 05, 2008 4:19 pm

Yeah right!

"Provocation" in whose eyes?
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