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[FreeSpirit]

Once human beings put their faith in the belief of something so irrational as the existence of a "god" and ignore evidence to the contrary, they stop holding themselves responsible for what they do, and the consequences from their actions.

They are then "guiltless" in attempts to make this world free from evil such as freedom of speech, capitalism, pleasure etc. which they believe work against their god. This is how they get round acting immorally.

Unfortunately they are brainwashed from childhood, so we are generations away from removing these primitive capitulations to acting humanely.

Spot on

[FreeSpirit]

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The Christian crusades (1100AD..1300AD) were a European campaign for CONTROL and in no way did it represent God or Jesus, although the leaders of the perpetrators pretended they did to garner support.

That was over 700 years ago; the trouble is that the stupid muslims still adopt a mentality that is 700 years out of date.

What do you want us to do declare war on Denmark and Norway for the Viking attacks on England that took place a thousand years ago.

Come back Miltiades; the lunatics have taken over the asylum.

[FreeSpirit]

You are right GR, these are political acts, but the perpertrators believe they are acting in the name of their God.

This is normally because they have been convinced by someone they believe to be a holy man that these actions will get them to paradise/heaven/whereever.

Don't forget the umpteen virigins promised when they reach paradise, as if they'd find that many in Glasgow where the stupid airport muslin terrorists struck.

And some women actualy support this sexist discrimination.

[Floda]

Once human beings put their faith in the belief of something so irrational as the existence of a "god" and ignore evidence to the contrary, they stop holding themselves responsible for what they do, and the consequences from their actions.

They are then "guiltless" in attempts to make this world free from evil such as freedom of speech, capitalism, pleasure etc. which they believe work against their god. This is how they get round acting immorally.

Unfortunately they are brainwashed from childhood, so we are generations away from removing these primitive capitulations to acting humanely.

Spot on

Whereas there is an absolute TRUTH in what you write in connection with the actions of those who seek to justify immorality by insisting that they are protecting/advancing their faith (faiths), one should also consider the fact that the pursuit of 'Pleasure, Capitalism and Freedom of Speech' can in itself become likened to a deity.

If the tenets of the religion one is indoctrinated with are adhered to strictly, there would possibly be 'Peace on Earth', since the value of such tenets lies with the objective of attaining it.

On the other hand, if one dismisses the existence of God (and I must confess that I personally do) the other pursuits can only be justified by insisting that such pursuits are WORTH attaining.

Unfortunately, the cruelties and destruction which follow such pursuits (as we have all witnessed I am sure) may be said to outweigh the advantages to the ordinary peoples of the world.

Sadly, 'Freedom of Speech' is too often interpreted as license to act in any manner one sees fit, thus the pursuits of 'Pleasure and Capitalism' (having become the likened deity) produce the same result as is common among the pious.

Greed is possibly at the root of every evil, whether it be Politically motivated or otherwise, I think one should NOT dismiss the existence of the 'Almighty' in quite such a cavalier fashion (I also) since there are so many unfortunates in the world who have nothing (other than their beliefs) to cling to. IMHO.

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[FreeSpirit]

Floda my main objection on this forum is the way that Get Real (perverter of good news since 1492 ) excuses and justifys everything that the terrorists do by blaming it all on the "wicked west".
He makes this forum a laughing stock sometimes he is as daft as Quamerslad or is he one in the same with all his ali baba (pox be unto him) garbage.

I also accept the view that many disgusting things have happened in the name of religion.
Regarding Christianity these things happened a long time ago whereas the followers of islam still act as if they were back in the middle ages.

If you accept islam you accept stoning for adultry, stoning for being raped, brains blown out for learning to read etc etc etc. but just as bad it is a sexualy discriminating religion.

If women had a say in the running of the islamic faith I sincerely believe that most of these obnoxious activities would decline considerably.

[denizaksulu]

Once human beings put their faith in the belief of something so irrational as the existence of a "god" and ignore evidence to the contrary, they stop holding themselves responsible for what they do, and the consequences from their actions.

They are then "guiltless" in attempts to make this world free from evil such as freedom of speech, capitalism, pleasure etc. which they believe work against their god. This is how they get round acting immorally.

Unfortunately they are brainwashed from childhood, so we are generations away from removing these primitive capitulations to acting humanely.

You are almost making me into an atheist.

Well you have a long way to go!

First you have to abandon the false belief that you were ethnically cleansed from anywhere, especially since you are free to choose to come and go all over Cyprus but choose to live in the UK .....

Thats why thousands of us are in the UK and other places. Like you were once.


Check the date O. It was true then.

[Oracle]

On the other hand, if one dismisses the existence of God (and I must confess that I personally do) the other pursuits can only be justified by insisting that such pursuits are WORTH attaining.

One must be free from justifying ones desires by a WORTH attributable to some higher being. It is enough that one can decide whether something is morally right or wrong before practicing it. If one desired to do nothing but read comic books, so long as no one suffered, what right does any other have to dissuade one from such conduct because of its worthlessness.

[Oracle]

Once human beings put their faith in the belief of something so irrational as the existence of a "god" and ignore evidence to the contrary, they stop holding themselves responsible for what they do, and the consequences from their actions.

They are then "guiltless" in attempts to make this world free from evil such as freedom of speech, capitalism, pleasure etc. which they believe work against their god. This is how they get round acting immorally.

Unfortunately they are brainwashed from childhood, so we are generations away from removing these primitive capitulations to acting humanely.

You are almost making me into an atheist.

Well you have a long way to go!

First you have to abandon the false belief that you were ethnically cleansed from anywhere, especially since you are free to choose to come and go all over Cyprus but choose to live in the UK .....

Thats why thousands of us are in the UK and other places. Like you were once.


Check the date O. It was true then.

Your "Location" is now inaccurate (if you insist it was once true) ... so correct it!

[Get Real!]

You are right GR, these are political acts, but the perpertrators believe they are acting in the name of their God.

This is normally because they have been convinced by someone they believe to be a holy man that these actions will get them to paradise/heaven/whereever.

Don't forget the umpteen virigins promised when they reach paradise, as if they'd find that many in Glasgow where the stupid airport muslin terrorists struck.

And some women actualy support this sexist discrimination.

Every time I see the "virgins" myth brought up I know the poster's arguments have pretty much dried up...

[yialousa1971]

What you trying to tell us some Camel jockey brought the USA to its knees.

Well a bunch Turkish camel jokeys kicked greeks out of Turkey and soon put your lot to flight in 74, that is until the Brit forces stepped in.

As for bringing the US to its knees go over there and see for yourself, The Eagles are still touring, Nashvilles still open and the Turkish liberators are still in Cyprus.

You forgot to mention how England, France, Italy and Judeo inspired commie Russia helped the Turks by supplying them with arms and your General Harington blockaded the Greek forces from taking Constantinople.

As for Cyprus in 1974, England, USA and of course Israel all gave the Turco's a helping hand.

Now for a little lesson, Turks are not camel Jockeys Arabs are. The Turks are Mongols like Attila the Hun and Genghis Khan.

Btw you didn't explain why Osama bin Laden has so many different faces?