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[purdey]

Great isn't it, we don't like your Government so we kill your people. Innocents slaughtered for what ? Believe me these people make no distinction between where you come from or what you believe in they just enjoy murdering innocent people.
It would be nice from time to time to see a little remorse on forum instead of you had it coming. Where is your heart Floda ?

[Floda]

My heart is in the right place mate, I don't pander to the bullshit the government spouts out in order to persecute innocent people.

I can make no distinction between an innocent bystander being gunned down by someone who opposes the authority of an aggressor, (merely because they are stronger) and an innocent being slaughtered by bombs being dropped upon them whilst they sleep in their homes.

Fact is, I personally would prefer to be victim of a young man brave enough to stand up for his rights, than one who fell foul to the whim of the liardy bastards who first instigated the problems that resulted in such horrendous actions.

It is very easy to sympathize with the pictures of young children suffering from the results of a suicide bomber's actions BUT, easier to sympathize when you actually hold a dying child in your arms and watch the life's blood ebb from it's wounds.

Or would you rather that the whole world held up it's arms in surrender to the 'Democratic Niceties' offered to those considered backward, by societies which are riven with such hatreds that they cannot even live with themselves as a result of it ?.

Where is my heart ?, "On the side of those in the right " as always, for as long as the good Lord (or Allah) grants me the strength.

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[purdey]

See this is where we are different. I have seen atrocity first hand too many times all over the world rather than a picture. It's never the same when you can't smell death or hear screams of fear and very easy to criticise from the comfort of your warm and secure surburban home. I have seen a young girl nailed to a door vagina cut to belly button, just because her father was of a different religion,
I do distiguish between the person who can do this and the one who drops a bomb from 30,000 ft, maybe I have a problem ?

[Floda]

Purdey, you are not the only one to have seen and experienced suffering at first hand, perhaps (in many instances) the fact that there are those that have not, leads them to live their lives oblivious to the reasons which lie behind the atrocities we are so often made aware of.

It would appear that the general population is expected to accept that all the catastrophes of recent years, somehow appear by 'Magic', little thought is given to the reasons behind them and THAT is where the main problem dwells.

If people would spend a little more time considering the causes, the events would possibly become easier to understand.

As to 'Life and Death' experiences, I assure you that I have had extremely close encounters with both my friend, graphic descriptions are quite unnecessary when recollecting them, they merely serve to horrify the reader at a time when the onus should be on determining the reasons for why they came about, perhaps even thinking about how they could be avoided, providing it would not mean total obliteration of every detail of one's own culture in preference to one which might be considered inferior .

Food for thought. IMHO.

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[Talisker]

Lucky for the Brits most of them are too poor to travel abroad at the moment

I know who'll be laughing when you're all back on Donkeys with your rusting Toyota twin cabs housing chickens.

Yes but before that while we were building the parthenon, you were painting your faces blue.

(such a cliche I know )

There are still a few of us around..........



How's the parthenon-building going?

[Floda]

I wonder if anyone else has noticed the number of occasions when events (such as those in Mumbai) take place and, in the aftermath, it comes to light that certain 'Dignitaries' invariably report that , had it not been for providence, THEY would have been there ?.

Usually a cancelled appointment or a rearrangement of schedule is offered as an explanation for their seeming good fortune BUT, it is not inconceivable (in the light of recent events) that they had prior knowledge or were warned by those that had, NOT to be there.

Subsequent to the manner in which the unlawful invasion of Iraq was conducted (based on a pack of lies) and the mass murder that took place there, such possibilities DO seem to present themselves.

It would not surprise me in the least if it transpired that these recent events were politically engineered for some obscure reason, they do seem to serve the purpose of distracting the attention (seriously) of what other evils are taking place under our very noses.

More food for thought. IMHO.

[Svetlana]

Strange you should mention 'dignitaries' finding an excuse not to be at certain places; I was telling Oracle only two weeks ago, that Mumbai (along with Abu Dhabi) was on my short list for a Christmas vacation - but that I had concerns about safety. However, I am certainly not 'dignified' and there was no prior knowledge!


My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.

Sadly, tourism throughout India will suffer too - with yet more people losing their jobs and joining the masses of the desparately poor there.

To me, India is the most fascinating country in the world and Mumbai an intriguing place to be.

I am surprised at the lack of condemnation of this atrocity against so many innocents, on this thread.

Lana

[CBBB]

Strange you should mention 'dignitaries' finding an excuse not to be at certain places; I was telling Oracle only two weeks ago, that Mumbai (along with Abu Dhabi) was on my short list for a Christmas vacation - but that I had concerns about safety. However, I am certainly not 'dignified' and there was no prior knowledge!


My heart goes out to all the victims and their families.

Sadly, tourism throughout India will suffer too - with yet more people losing their jobs and joining the masses of the desparately poor there.

To me, India is the most fascinating country in the world and Mumbai an intriguing place to be.

I am surprised at the lack of condemnation of this atrocity against so many innocents, on this thread.

Lana

Lana,

I think that the condemnation has gone unsaid, no sane person can condone these actions.

Some of the comments on this thread prompt me to start another one, possibly two.

[Tim Drayton]

Iceman, I have come across this quote from an article in the 15 June 2005 edition of the Kıbrıs newspaper:

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php ... me/Ekonomi

Eskiden sadece TC kökenli bankalar eşdeğer ipoteğe karşılık kredi vermiyordu (ki onları eleştiriyorduk), şimdilerde yerel bankalarımız da bu kervana katıldı.

Translation

Formerly only banks of RoT origin did not provide mortgages secured with "equivalent value" real property (and we criticised them), now our local banks have followed suit.

It seems that the situation I described existed a few years ago, at least.

Thanx for the link Tim
As i mentioned earlier my wife works for one of the main Turkish banks (IS Bank) and not so long ago (six months) someone i know was refused by two local banks and he got the credit for the mortgage he wanted from IS Bank.

Thanx for the information, Iceman, which is obviously more recent.
Quite honestly, I have a lot of difficulty understanding the status of "eşdeğer" title deeds even under TRNC law.

[Free Spirit]

I am surprised at the lack of condemnation of this atrocity against so many innocents, on this thread. Lana

Lana, .[/quote]

You won't from such as 'Get Real' he condones the Mumbai massacre claiming it to be justifiable due to the actions of certain politicians. Therefore making the monsters heroes and not terrorists.