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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby halil » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:20 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.


No, I am not referring to refugees here, but to Turkish Cypriots who were not displaced and have the original deeds to their properties.

Curious to hear you say that many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds - does that mean some refused to take part in this exercise and hung on to their deeds for their properties in the south?



YES!


This surprises me because I thought everybody was allocated a new house based on the principle of equivalent value to the one they had left behind. How did such people who did not want to surrender the deeds to their homes in the south find a roof over their heads?



In 1974 I was resident in the UK and looking after my career. I had hopes of a proper settlement. Others have different stories. I also have an untold one. It shall remain so.


Lots of people like at your case Deniz . most of them lives in UK or Australia . Most of them waiting what will come out from the Yagmuralan villages case from ECHR ..... Not for settlement they opened the case at ECHR for compensations .... all those years not using they are properties .
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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 3:36 pm

Iceman, I have come across this quote from an article in the 15 June 2005 edition of the Kıbrıs newspaper:

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php ... me/Ekonomi

Eskiden sadece TC kökenli bankalar eşdeğer ipoteğe karşılık kredi vermiyordu (ki onları eleştiriyorduk), şimdilerde yerel bankalarımız da bu kervana katıldı.

Translation

Formerly only banks of RoT origin did not provide mortgages secured with "equivalent value" real property (and we criticised them), now our local banks have followed suit.

It seems that the situation I described existed a few years ago, at least.
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Postby Free Spirit » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
FreeSpirit wrote:It's amazing we're racist if we consider all muslims the enemy yet the muslim terrorists racialy picked out UK & US passport holders in this latest muslim attrocity.
Some will say that all muslims aren't terrorists; I prefer the alternative by saying that almost all terrorist are muslims..
I wonder just who is the real cause of Islamaphobia? I certainly wouldn't be pointing the finger at the BNP in the UK.

Terrorism: “The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.”

The definition fits the US & UK foreign policies to a “T”, but your inability to overcome your own racism seemingly blinds you into selective terrorism.

There you go again on your typical two wrongs make a right mentality bike.
So according to you they are quite justified in this latest racist vile act of barbarism!
And what about your Cypriot brother who was riddled with bullets in this perfectly reasonable act of self defence.
You are so warped, go and polish your unfired gun and unspent cartridges that you keep as a souvenir from when you ran away from the Turks.
It's a good job that you crapped yourself when you ran from the Turks because it covered over that yellow streak down your back.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:37 pm

Free Spirit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
FreeSpirit wrote:It's amazing we're racist if we consider all muslims the enemy yet the muslim terrorists racialy picked out UK & US passport holders in this latest muslim attrocity.
Some will say that all muslims aren't terrorists; I prefer the alternative by saying that almost all terrorist are muslims..
I wonder just who is the real cause of Islamaphobia? I certainly wouldn't be pointing the finger at the BNP in the UK.

Terrorism: “The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.”

The definition fits the US & UK foreign policies to a “T”, but your inability to overcome your own racism seemingly blinds you into selective terrorism.

There you go again on your typical two wrongs make a right mentality bike.
So according to you they are quite justified in this latest racist vile act of barbarism!
And what about your Cypriot brother who was riddled with bullets in this perfectly reasonable act of self defence.
You are so warped, go and polish your unfired gun and unspent cartridges that you keep as a souvenir from when you ran away from the Turks.
It's a good job that you crapped yourself when you ran from the Turks because it covered over that yellow streak down your back.


Once again the Brits (of Free Spirit's menial mentality) spread hate across the world and others suffer ....

Lucky for the Brits most of them are too poor to travel abroad at the moment :roll:
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 5:13 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Hooray! According to MrH on another thread:

"Azerbaijan outright recognises all TRNC passports for direct travel to its country"
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Postby purdey » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:02 pm

Plenty of money left in the UK Oracle, we just have it hidden under our beds nowadays.
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Postby Pippin » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:24 pm

CBBB wrote:
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halil wrote:dandini das dana danalar girdi bosdana .............


We all witness in this forum , who were attacking the British and British public ..... now just trying to play good boy role .......

we all know how bubbles , tess or others how they have been under the harassing fire .

what all about this now = confess


:shock: Where?

We love the Brit expats. :D


I wouldn't say we love the Brit expats, just some of them. The ones that spend all their time moaning about Cypriots and saying "Cyprus is in the EU now", can bugger off back to the UK



I agree wholeheartedly. I am a British expat and I get so mad at those who do nothing but moan about Cyprus and the Cypriots.
I love the island and her people and I would love to see the back of the moaners. If they dont like it here no one is forcing them to stay.
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Postby iceman » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:28 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:Iceman, I have come across this quote from an article in the 15 June 2005 edition of the Kıbrıs newspaper:

http://www.kibrisgazetesi.com/index.php ... me/Ekonomi

Eskiden sadece TC kökenli bankalar eşdeğer ipoteğe karşılık kredi vermiyordu (ki onları eleştiriyorduk), şimdilerde yerel bankalarımız da bu kervana katıldı.

Translation

Formerly only banks of RoT origin did not provide mortgages secured with "equivalent value" real property (and we criticised them), now our local banks have followed suit.

It seems that the situation I described existed a few years ago, at least.


Thanx for the link Tim
As i mentioned earlier my wife works for one of the main Turkish banks (IS Bank) and not so long ago (six months) someone i know was refused by two local banks and he got the credit for the mortgage he wanted from IS Bank.
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Postby BOF » Fri Nov 28, 2008 6:42 pm

Pippin wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
halil wrote:dandini das dana danalar girdi bosdana .............


We all witness in this forum , who were attacking the British and British public ..... now just trying to play good boy role .......

we all know how bubbles , tess or others how they have been under the harassing fire .

what all about this now = confess


:shock: Where?

We love the Brit expats. :D


I wouldn't say we love the Brit expats, just some of them. The ones that spend all their time moaning about Cypriots and saying "Cyprus is in the EU now", can bugger off back to the UK



I agree wholeheartedly. I am a British expat and I get so mad at those who do nothing but moan about Cyprus and the Cypriots.
I love the island and her people and I would love to see the back of the moaners. If they dont like it here no one is forcing them to stay.

but its ok for "Cypriots" to moan about Britain and the british?? whatever happened to constructive criticsm i wonder... i wouldnt say i love all Cypriots, just some of them. no different in respect of the above statements but someone will have a pop mark my words...
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Postby Oracle » Fri Nov 28, 2008 7:07 pm

purdey wrote:Plenty of money left in the UK Oracle, we just have it hidden under our beds nowadays.


Might explain why MFI has gone bankrupt now too .... no one wants to replace their beds ... :lol:
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