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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:12 pm

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CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Most travel with a RoC passport, even though they keep telling us that they do not recognise the RoC. :roll:
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Kikapu » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:25 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 1:41 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Kikapu » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:00 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:29 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.


No, I am not referring to refugees here, but to Turkish Cypriots who were not displaced and have the original deeds to their properties.

Curious to hear you say that many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds - does that mean some refused to take part in this exercise and hung on to their deeds for their properties in the south?
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby iceman » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:33 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Tim
I believe its the other way round...some local banks only accept "Türk koçani" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974)
My wife works for one of the main Turkish banks and they have no problem accepting any kocan..
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:35 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.


No, I am not referring to refugees here, but to Turkish Cypriots who were not displaced and have the original deeds to their properties.

Curious to hear you say that many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds - does that mean some refused to take part in this exercise and hung on to their deeds for their properties in the south?



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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:36 pm

iceman wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Tim
I believe its the other way round...some local banks only accept "Türk koçani" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974)
My wife works for one of the main Turkish banks and they have no problem accepting any kocan..


I got that wrong, then. Thanks.
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.


No, I am not referring to refugees here, but to Turkish Cypriots who were not displaced and have the original deeds to their properties.

Curious to hear you say that many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds - does that mean some refused to take part in this exercise and hung on to their deeds for their properties in the south?



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This surprises me because I thought everybody was allocated a new house based on the principle of equivalent value to the one they had left behind. How did such people who did not want to surrender the deeds to their homes in the south find a roof over their heads?
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Re: A passport to death, British passport holders in fear

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:49 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
CBBB wrote:Increasingly carrying a British passport when traveling outside of the EU is seen as "high risk" dual nationality Brits are dropping their British passports and using safer options


I think the safest bet would be for everyone to get a passport from the "trnc" since the terrorist will not know where or what "trnc" is.!

It may even help the authorities overpower the terrorist while they are preoccupied amongst themselves trying to figure out where or what is "trnc".!


Trouble is you can only travel to Turkey on it (I think).


Not according to "Viewpoint", Tim, because he claims to have used his "trnc" passport all over the world for travel.! What he doesn't tell people is, that he is a British born and has a British Passport also.

Just a side comment. A while back, a forum member "Shahmaran" told us that his "trnc" passport was refused as a proper identification at a bank I believe, in Turkey.!


Just as bizarrely, I believe that the branches of mainland Turkish banks operating in the north of Cyprus will only accept title deeds as collateral for a loan if they are "Türk koçanı" (i.e. deeds for property which was TC-owned prior to 1974) - unlike the local banks, which will accept any kind of title deeds for this purpose. I wonder if anybody can confirm this.


Is that "Turkish Deeds" for property in the north only, or TC properties in the South also, Tim. Many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds to the "trnc" on property they owned in the South, for in return getting stolen GC properties in the north. Local banks properly deal in stolen GC properties all they want, since they are not exposed to International regulations, since nothing does in the "trnc". Watch these local banks fold as soon as there is a settlement and any TC's who keep any money in these local banks, will see their money go up in smoke.


No, I am not referring to refugees here, but to Turkish Cypriots who were not displaced and have the original deeds to their properties.

Curious to hear you say that many TC's turned in their TC owned property deeds - does that mean some refused to take part in this exercise and hung on to their deeds for their properties in the south?



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This surprises me because I thought everybody was allocated a new house based on the principle of equivalent value to the one they had left behind. How did such people who did not want to surrender the deeds to their homes in the south find a roof over their heads?



In 1974 I was resident in the UK and looking after my career. I had hopes of a proper settlement. Others have different stories. I also have an untold one. It shall remain so.
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