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[Oracle]

They should keep off Georgian land! Try Negotiating for a change! Smash and Grab in 2008 just doesn't quite work in today's diplomatic world.

But you think that is acceptable for Turkey to do?

[DT.]

They should keep off Georgian land! Try Negotiating for a change! Smash and Grab in 2008 just doesn't quite work in today's diplomatic world.

But you think that is acceptable for Turkey to do?

bravo!

[Byron]

Byron,

In 1974 British FM Callaghan had warned "today Cyprus is a prisoner of Turkey, but soon Turkey will realise that it will be a prisoner of Cyprus". His words are proving prophetic and Turkey is in a trap, and Greece is sitting back waiting for the inevitable result.

Turkey knows this, theya re not fools. That is why they are trying desperately to replace the TCs with imported settlers, so they will have a hold on the island when the inevitable happens, when they will have to let go of Cyprus.

The end will come when the powers that count make it clear that they will not tolerate Turkey continuing with its quasi annexation of northern Cyprus and thus extending its territory and power in the eastern Mediterranean at the expense of ALL nations of the area. If Turkey remains in Cyprus the marine territory in its control will cover two thirds of the eastern Mediterranean.

Turkey is not that good a friend to make it worthwhile to aquire half a dozen enemies who are as important strategically as Turkey if not more so.

Please explain who are the powers that count ?

[Byron]

'Will someone please focus on this and explain why."

Because Greece is a guarantor under the 1960 constitution, it is a partner nation in the EU, and it is likely to end up fighting if push comes to shove.

For similar reasons, Greece informs the Cyprus government of developments in the Aegean. Whether we like it or not the line of confrontaion starts at the Greek-Bulgarian-Turkish border and ends at Famagusta. It was Turkey who chose to extend the confrontation and we must follow.

Thank you for your clear explanation. Under this scenario it is absolutely clear that there is a continual on going dialogue with Greece with regard to the Cyprus problem. Therefore those Greek Cypriots who continue to illude themselves that a solution can be found without the approval or blessing of Greece are barking up the wrong tree. By the same flip of the coin we can say that the Turkish Cypriots are carrying out the same measures with Turkey.

Our allegiance with Greece must continue to remain strong in order to finally resolve the Cyprus problem.

I don't know why you even bother in the CyProb section...

Please explain your comment ?

[Byron]

I believe that Cyprus and Greece are truly Brothers in Arms.

Greece having (mostly) liberated herself from the Turkish yoke is now continuing a fuller "fight" for freedom which will only end when Turkey has been removed from Cyprus. Even when it looks like Greece is increasing diplomatic exchanges with Turkey, I have no doubt it is its modern peaceful means to end the occupation.

Christofias despite initial worries, clearly is continuing this brotherhood between Greece and Cyprus (hence the exchange of medals and honours) and expanding our old ties with other like-minded nations so that together we can make a concerted effort to pressure Turkey out with the least likelihood of further bloodshed.

So let's not have any more one-sided play for either Greece or Cyprus; they are in this together!

Are they really -

Get Real Mon Nov 24- " Greece has never regarded Cypriots as Hellenic enough to accept them or shed their blood for them so wake up"

Get Real Mon Nov 24 - " No a real Cypriot, I hate both Greece and Turkey with plenty of passion".

[Oracle]

I believe that Cyprus and Greece are truly Brothers in Arms.

Greece having (mostly) liberated herself from the Turkish yoke is now continuing a fuller "fight" for freedom which will only end when Turkey has been removed from Cyprus. Even when it looks like Greece is increasing diplomatic exchanges with Turkey, I have no doubt it is its modern peaceful means to end the occupation.

Christofias despite initial worries, clearly is continuing this brotherhood between Greece and Cyprus (hence the exchange of medals and honours) and expanding our old ties with other like-minded nations so that together we can make a concerted effort to pressure Turkey out with the least likelihood of further bloodshed.

So let's not have any more one-sided play for either Greece or Cyprus; they are in this together!

Are they really -

Get Real Mon Nov 24- " Greece has never regarded Cypriots as Hellenic enough to accept them or shed their blood for them so wake up"

Get Real Mon Nov 24 - " No a real Cypriot, I hate both Greece and Turkey with plenty of passion".

Get Real! is the exception which proves the rule ... dare I say, he is an oxymoron

[utu]

If GR sticks to his convictions, Oracle, he serves to at least get some respect for that.

[Oracle]

If GR sticks to his convictions, Oracle, he serves to at least get some respect for that.

Oh I have the utmost respect for GR! .... on all matters, except this desperate clutching at straws, a final act, of turning upon himself