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[Nikitas]

'Will someone please focus on this and explain why."

Because Greece is a guarantor under the 1960 constitution, it is a partner nation in the EU, and it is likely to end up fighting if push comes to shove.

For similar reasons, Greece informs the Cyprus government of developments in the Aegean. Whether we like it or not the line of confrontaion starts at the Greek-Bulgarian-Turkish border and ends at Famagusta. It was Turkey who chose to extend the confrontation and we must follow.

[Byron]

'Will someone please focus on this and explain why."

Because Greece is a guarantor under the 1960 constitution, it is a partner nation in the EU, and it is likely to end up fighting if push comes to shove.

For similar reasons, Greece informs the Cyprus government of developments in the Aegean. Whether we like it or not the line of confrontaion starts at the Greek-Bulgarian-Turkish border and ends at Famagusta. It was Turkey who chose to extend the confrontation and we must follow.

Thank you for your clear explanation. Under this scenario it is absolutely clear that there is a continual on going dialogue with Greece with regard to the Cyprus problem. Therefore those Greek Cypriots who continue to illude themselves that a solution can be found without the approval or blessing of Greece are barking up the wrong tree. By the same flip of the coin we can say that the Turkish Cypriots are carrying out the same measures with Turkey.

Our allegiance with Greece must continue to remain strong in order to finally resolve the Cyprus problem.

[Get Real!]

'Will someone please focus on this and explain why."

Because Greece is a guarantor under the 1960 constitution, it is a partner nation in the EU, and it is likely to end up fighting if push comes to shove.

For similar reasons, Greece informs the Cyprus government of developments in the Aegean. Whether we like it or not the line of confrontaion starts at the Greek-Bulgarian-Turkish border and ends at Famagusta. It was Turkey who chose to extend the confrontation and we must follow.

Thank you for your clear explanation. Under this scenario it is absolutely clear that there is a continual on going dialogue with Greece with regard to the Cyprus problem. Therefore those Greek Cypriots who continue to illude themselves that a solution can be found without the approval or blessing of Greece are barking up the wrong tree. By the same flip of the coin we can say that the Turkish Cypriots are carrying out the same measures with Turkey.

Our allegiance with Greece must continue to remain strong in order to finally resolve the Cyprus problem.

I don't know why you even bother in the CyProb section...

[Oracle]

'Will someone please focus on this and explain why."

Because Greece is a guarantor under the 1960 constitution, it is a partner nation in the EU, and it is likely to end up fighting if push comes to shove.

For similar reasons, Greece informs the Cyprus government of developments in the Aegean. Whether we like it or not the line of confrontaion starts at the Greek-Bulgarian-Turkish border and ends at Famagusta. It was Turkey who chose to extend the confrontation and we must follow.

Thank you for your clear explanation. Under this scenario it is absolutely clear that there is a continual on going dialogue with Greece with regard to the Cyprus problem. Therefore those Greek Cypriots who continue to illude themselves that a solution can be found without the approval or blessing of Greece are barking up the wrong tree. By the same flip of the coin we can say that the Turkish Cypriots are carrying out the same measures with Turkey.

Our allegiance with Greece must continue to remain strong in order to finally resolve the Cyprus problem.

Of course .... The allegiance by TCs to Turkey is so that they can steal what is not rightfully theirs by using the brute force of a belligerent nation. Whereas the Cypriots are naturally allied to the people (Greeks) who have historical cultural and ethnic links to Cyprus.

[Nikitas]

Byron,

In 1974 British FM Callaghan had warned "today Cyprus is a prisoner of Turkey, but soon Turkey will realise that it will be a prisoner of Cyprus". His words are proving prophetic and Turkey is in a trap, and Greece is sitting back waiting for the inevitable result.

Turkey knows this, theya re not fools. That is why they are trying desperately to replace the TCs with imported settlers, so they will have a hold on the island when the inevitable happens, when they will have to let go of Cyprus.

The end will come when the powers that count make it clear that they will not tolerate Turkey continuing with its quasi annexation of northern Cyprus and thus extending its territory and power in the eastern Mediterranean at the expense of ALL nations of the area. If Turkey remains in Cyprus the marine territory in its control will cover two thirds of the eastern Mediterranean.

Turkey is not that good a friend to make it worthwhile to aquire half a dozen enemies who are as important strategically as Turkey if not more so.

[Kifeas]

I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.

Byron, I wonder what is the point you want to make, by referring all the time to the issue of the relationship between Cyprus and Greece. Are you suggesting that the GCs receive instructions from Greece as to what king of a solution they will negotiate and /or accept? This is nonsense Byron, and you should have known or realized that by now, if you had any real conduct with the political situation in Cyprus. Cyprus, yet does coordinate with Greece, because of all the known reasons, but that does not imply that Greece decides on behalf of the GCs or the RoC on the Cyprus problem or any other international or internal affair! If you want to suggest anything different, then I am afraid you only reveal your absolute ignorance and stupidity!

[alexISS]

Kifeas, I respect you for your knowledge of the Cyprus problem, but I find your habit of insulting anyone with views different than yours very annoying. Not everyone that disagrees with you is stupid, please try being more civilized. Your posts are worth reading but your bad manners prevent people from giving them the attention they deserve

[Kifeas]

Kifeas, I respect you for your knowledge of the Cyprus problem, but I find your habit of insulting anyone with views different than yours very annoying. Not everyone that disagrees with you is stupid, please try being more civilized. Your posts are worth reading but your bad manners prevent people from giving them the attention they deserve

Alexis, first of all, I do not regard anyone with a different view to mine, as stupid; nor do I insult everyone expressing different views. I only do so selectively, when I see someone indeed expressing stupid and incomprehensible views, especially doing so in such an assertive manner like the above example.

What do you think, do you agree with Byron's above assessment, yes or no?

[DT.]

Kifeas, I respect you for your knowledge of the Cyprus problem, but I find your habit of insulting anyone with views different than yours very annoying. Not everyone that disagrees with you is stupid, please try being more civilized. Your posts are worth reading but your bad manners prevent people from giving them the attention they deserve

Alexis, first of all, I do not regard anyone with a different view to mine, as stupid; nor do I insult everyone expressing different views. I only do so selectively, when I see someone indeed expressing stupid and incomprehensible views, especially doing so in such an assertive manner like the above example.

What do you think, do you agree with Byron's above assessment, yes or no?

whether he agrees or not, calling someone an idiot due to his lack of understanding or lack of wanting to understand is a mistake many of us make (including me on occassion).

[alexISS]

Alexis, first of all, I do not regard anyone with a different view to mine, as stupid; nor do I insult everyone expressing different views. I only do so selectively, when I see someone indeed expressing stupid and incomprehensible views, especially doing so in such an assertive manner like the above example.

Kifeas, what looks stupid to you is not necessarily stupid and, even if it is, it does not give you the right to attack the poster. All I'm saying is that you downgrade your own contribution to the discussion which is otherwise invaluable

What do you think, do you agree with Byron's above assessment, yes or no?

Cyprus rightfully briefs and consults Greece, taking advantage of the political and diplomatical leverage that Greece, as a bigger country, possesses. This does not mean that Cyprus is given orders by Greece in any way