The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


Brothers in Arms .....

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Re: Brothers in Arms .....

Postby DT. » Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:01 pm

Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Byron wrote:
Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......


Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.


Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !


Actaully Byron, I believe GCs and Greeks are united in the desire to free Cyprus from the tyranny of the Turks. When we express differences in how this is to be achieved, it is just our Greek Epithymia .... common desire, but with each having a different approach. Which is fair enough.

So it is not a call for opposition, but just highlighting how deep our common goal is embedded.


For the majority of Greek Cypriots , I would agree with your statement. However I am referring in particular to the minority of Greek cypriots on this site who are fervently anti Greece.

It would be interesting to hear whether they are in agreement with the briefing actions of Christofias and before him Papadopulos or not. It seems that when the Cypriot government defends or aligns with Greece the vast majority of them hibernate.

A voi la parola !


If there was a more competent and interested govt in Greece I wouldn't doubt the helpfulness of these meetings. As things stand now Christofias informs karamanlis of his plans and karamanlis say's. "Really? Thats interesting! What are you gonna do if they then turn round and do this?"
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Re: Brothers in Arms .....

Postby Byron » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:16 pm

DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Byron wrote:
Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......


Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.


Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !


Actaully Byron, I believe GCs and Greeks are united in the desire to free Cyprus from the tyranny of the Turks. When we express differences in how this is to be achieved, it is just our Greek Epithymia .... common desire, but with each having a different approach. Which is fair enough.

So it is not a call for opposition, but just highlighting how deep our common goal is embedded.


For the majority of Greek Cypriots , I would agree with your statement. However I am referring in particular to the minority of Greek cypriots on this site who are fervently anti Greece.

It would be interesting to hear whether they are in agreement with the briefing actions of Christofias and before him Papadopulos or not. It seems that when the Cypriot government defends or aligns with Greece the vast majority of them hibernate.

A voi la parola !


If there was a more competent and interested govt in Greece I wouldn't doubt the helpfulness of these meetings. As things stand now Christofias informs karamanlis of his plans and karamanlis say's. "Really? Thats interesting! What are you gonna do if they then turn round and do this?"


I note your comments, but if the citizens disagree, why hold these regular talks and discussions between Christofias and Karamanlis. This is my point.
Byron
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Re: Brothers in Arms .....

Postby DT. » Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:51 pm

Byron wrote:
DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Byron wrote:
Byron wrote:
Oracle wrote:The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.


http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......


Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.


Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !


Actaully Byron, I believe GCs and Greeks are united in the desire to free Cyprus from the tyranny of the Turks. When we express differences in how this is to be achieved, it is just our Greek Epithymia .... common desire, but with each having a different approach. Which is fair enough.

So it is not a call for opposition, but just highlighting how deep our common goal is embedded.


For the majority of Greek Cypriots , I would agree with your statement. However I am referring in particular to the minority of Greek cypriots on this site who are fervently anti Greece.

It would be interesting to hear whether they are in agreement with the briefing actions of Christofias and before him Papadopulos or not. It seems that when the Cypriot government defends or aligns with Greece the vast majority of them hibernate.

A voi la parola !


If there was a more competent and interested govt in Greece I wouldn't doubt the helpfulness of these meetings. As things stand now Christofias informs karamanlis of his plans and karamanlis say's. "Really? Thats interesting! What are you gonna do if they then turn round and do this?"


I note your comments, but if the citizens disagree, why hold these regular talks and discussions between Christofias and Karamanlis. This is my point.


Christofias loves to travel and karamanlis loves to show off.

On a more serious note, I take it that the EU will have a lot to do with that. A lot of exchanges going on in committees and councils. You initiate this bill and I'll support this commitee type of thing.

There's not that much that can be said about the Cyprus problem from Greece other than using karamanlis as a sounding board for ideas.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Byron » Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:33 pm

I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.
Byron
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Postby DT. » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:03 pm

Byron wrote:I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.


If you believed that Papadopoulos ever received instructions from karamanlis then you know nothing about the Cyprus Problem.

I refer you to karamanlis foreign secretary Ms Dora Bacoyianni
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Byron » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:07 pm

DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.


If you believed that Papadopoulos ever received instructions from karamanlis then you know nothing about the Cyprus Problem.

I refer you to karamanlis foreign secretary Ms Dora Bacoyianni


same thing still the GREEK govt.
Byron
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Postby DT. » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:22 pm

Byron wrote:
DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.


If you believed that Papadopoulos ever received instructions from karamanlis then you know nothing about the Cyprus Problem.

I refer you to karamanlis foreign secretary Ms Dora Bacoyianni


same thing still the GREEK govt.


wooosh. You completely missed that one. I'll explain and bananiot can confirm (he was protesting at the time that pap was making us look ridiculous and was embarassing the greek govt as well.)

Dora could not even stand to be in the same room with tpap let alone sit with karamanlis and dish out instructions to him. Karamanlis (a man of limited abilities in my opinion) would not stand a chance with someone who was once quoted as the best contracts lawyer in Europe.

The actions of both the Greek govt and the Cypriot govt at the time proved how Greece was forced into a relationship of "standing by" Cyprus with whatever decisions CYPRUS made.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Byron » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:32 pm

DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:
DT. wrote:
Byron wrote:I do not think that the EU has anything to do with this. Christofias visits Greece to update and obtain instructions. Exactly the same as Papadopolus and Clerides before him before EU accession.


If you believed that Papadopoulos ever received instructions from karamanlis then you know nothing about the Cyprus Problem.

I refer you to karamanlis foreign secretary Ms Dora Bacoyianni


same thing still the GREEK govt.


wooosh. You completely missed that one. I'll explain and bananiot can confirm (he was protesting at the time that pap was making us look ridiculous and was embarassing the greek govt as well.)

Dora could not even stand to be in the same room with tpap let alone sit with karamanlis and dish out instructions to him. Karamanlis (a man of limited abilities in my opinion) would not stand a chance with someone who was once quoted as the best contracts lawyer in Europe.

The actions of both the Greek govt and the Cypriot govt at the time proved how Greece was forced into a relationship of "standing by" Cyprus with whatever decisions CYPRUS made.


Thanks for the chit -chat, I didn't know the ins and outs, interesting indeed.

Seriously, the fact remains as the representative of the Cyprus Republic, the President of Cyprus continually briefs the GREEK govt whether the Prime Minister , the Foreign Secretary or even the Leader of the Opposition . Will someone please focus on this and explain why.
Byron
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:53 pm

Postby DT. » Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:39 pm

briefing is different to receiving instructions.
User avatar
DT.
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 12684
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2006 8:34 pm
Location: Lefkosia

Postby Byron » Mon Dec 01, 2008 2:48 pm

DT. wrote:briefing is different to receiving instructions.


Agreed but why brief ?
Byron
Contributor
Contributor
 
Posts: 779
Joined: Sun Nov 23, 2008 5:53 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Cyprus Problem

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest