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[BOF]

BOF, do not worry and rest sure! Now that you "woke” us “up" to the possibility that "big" Turkey may become fed up and take over the whole of "little" Cyprus, we will become "good boys," "behave" ourselves and “seat quiet!"

Which antagonism you asshole are you talking about? Is it antagonism to demand the end of your country's illegal occupation, and the restitution of its people's human rights?

PS: By the way, has anyone ever told you that the avatar you have chosen makes you look like a gay? You know, in Cyprus we have a saying, that “the moustache is the veil of a gay man!”

i did not wake anyone up to the possibility of anything i suggested a far fetched scenario - i did not good say good boys behave or (seat quiet) sit quiet
perhaps i refer to the Antagonism that there are EU demands on the table before Turkey is allowed to join the Club.....
Nice turn of phrase and resorting to the language of the gutter in a personal attack on someone you know nothing of. your idea of a discussion?? reasoned debate? oh you do dissappoint me..
I thought my avatar was rather fetching actually.... but if you are interested in seeing if i look Gay (homophobic as well as foul mouthed) come out from behind your screen.

[BOF]

BOF, do not worry and rest sure! Now that you "woke” us “up" to the possibility that "big" Turkey may become fed up and take over the whole of "little" Cyprus, we will become "good boys," "behave" ourselves and “seat quiet!"

Which antagonism you asshole are you talking about? Is it antagonism to demand the end of your country's illegal occupation, and the restitution of its people's human rights?

PS: By the way, has anyone ever told you that the avatar you have chosen makes you look like a gay? You know, in Cyprus we have a saying, that “the moustache is the veil of a gay man!”

i did not wake anyone up to the possibility of anything i suggested a far fetched scenario - i did not good say good boys behave or (seat quiet) sit quiet
perhaps i refer to the Antagonism that there are EU demands on the table before Turkey is allowed to join the Club.....
Nice turn of phrase and resorting to the language of the gutter in a personal attack on someone you know nothing of. your idea of a discussion?? reasoned debate? oh you do dissappoint me..
I thought my avatar was rather fetching actually.... but if you are interested in seeing if i look Gay (homophobic as well as foul mouthed) come out from behind your screen.

[BOF]

[Its a pity the President declared that Cyprus would not join NATO as long as HE was in power. that would have been another string to your bow - it is better to be on the inside looking out than on the outside looking in.

Nope .... it is better to stick with principles. Why should we join a military organisation that was basically set up as a missile shield against Russia ..... and when Russia called its bluff, asking to become a member of this "peace" organisation they turned it down.

So much for NATO and world peace

There is of course another scenario far fetched as it may seem.
That Turkey gets fed up with all the antagonism and lack of EU membership and decides to take Cyprus...it has nothing to lose as its the TRNC thats the illegal state not Turkey.

The TRNC is not an illegal "state", it is not worthy of any recognition as any type of entity. What is illegal is the Turkish occupation so I do not see how you think Turkey is not accountable or responsible for this act of war.

If it decides to "take" Cyprus, be sure it is part of the Union you belong to as well!

Will Europe want to lose its most southerly/easterly border and all the geopolitical strength (as well as future revenue) attached therein?

Remember from Peyia they can see the sea - a sharp thrust there and Cyprus is split and they can then roll up either side. And then to their mind the Cyprus problem is solved. ridiculous i know but think of Big Russia and little Georgia....

OK I guess the G&T is talking now ....

Tell me what stopped the Turks in the positions they are now occupying??
was it intervention from outsiders or a security council resolution. i dont know the history of their halting.

Others will know more, but my take on it is that Turkey has since the 50's planned to take the northern part of Cyprus, hence its second push (August 1974) even after a ceasefire was called. I guess the halt was then imposed by the higher powers that be (UK/UN/US) once the objective was met.

Nato was set up in 1947 the only missile around then as a V2 .


of course the turkish occupation is illegal ! you are quoting the hypothetical invasion of Cyprus. if turkey came to the áid' of the TRNC if it felt it to be threatened that would be its excuse.

if it decides to 'take' cyprus (hypothetical) it is not only part of the union i am in - i live here .

sorry that should have been Pyla not peyia - and again it is still part of the hypothetical scenario - i did mention the word ridiculous!

Dont drink G&T

[Kifeas]

BOF, do not worry and rest sure! Now that you "woke” us “up" to the possibility that "big" Turkey may become fed up and take over the whole of "little" Cyprus, we will become "good boys," "behave" ourselves and “seat quiet!"

Which antagonism you asshole are you talking about? Is it antagonism to demand the end of your country's illegal occupation, and the restitution of its people's human rights?

PS: By the way, has anyone ever told you that the avatar you have chosen makes you look like a gay? You know, in Cyprus we have a saying, that “the moustache is the veil of a gay man!”

i did not wake anyone up to the possibility of anything i suggested a far fetched scenario - i did not good say good boys behave or (seat quiet) sit quiet
perhaps i refer to the Antagonism that there are EU demands on the table before Turkey is allowed to join the Club.....
Nice turn of phrase and resorting to the language of the gutter in a personal attack on someone you know nothing of. your idea of a discussion?? reasoned debate? oh you do dissappoint me..
I thought my avatar was rather fetching actually.... but if you are interested in seeing if i look Gay (homophobic as well as foul mouthed) come out from behind your screen.

So what was it that you wanted to mean, BOF, by saying that “There is of course another scenario …… That Turkey gets fed up with all the antagonism and lack of EU membership and decides to take Cyprus,” and then “…think of Big Russia and little Georgia....?” Wasn’t it a not so disguised attempt on your behalf to down look and even intimidate us for being a small country, and suggest we “behave” and become “good boys” by bending over, otherwise your so admirable “big” Turkey may get angry with us and take the whole of Cyprus? Weren’t your words those of a gutter subscribing to the logic that “might is right?” Are we challenging Turkey for something illegitimate or for the sake of doing so, for you to claim that we antagonize her; or is it the other way around? If you want to know the truth, we are neither concerned nor afraid of Turkey, and if it ever attempts such a stupidity, it knows it will have to pay a huge price by the end, that is why it will never dare!

Thanks for correcting my occasional spelling mistakes, but from what you may find out in this forum, I speak your language at least as good if not better than you do, and by the way, since you invite me, I am willing to meet you anywhere in Cyprus, any time?

[BOF]

Until then Ankara is going to have to face the music, from Greece, Russia EU and whomsoever we deem necessary to redress the balance of having such an over-sized country as Turkey invading us, occupying us and continuing to threaten us with warships!



This was written by Oracle and clearly refers to oversized country Turkey, attacking smaller country cyprus. which in turn is why i referred to big country Russia and little country Georgia in the far fetched scenario.
in all this you forget the words "far Fetched Scenario". it is a scenario not a threat or anything other than HYPOTHETICAL.

The way you prefer to try to put words into my mouth is up to you. but personal abuse and insults i wont put up with.

[Oracle]

Until then Ankara is going to have to face the music, from Greece, Russia EU and whomsoever we deem necessary to redress the balance of having such an over-sized country as Turkey invading us, occupying us and continuing to threaten us with warships!



This was written by Oracle and clearly refers to oversized country Turkey, attacking smaller country cyprus. which in turn is why i referred to big country Russia and little country Georgia in the far fetched scenario
The way you prefer to try to put words into my mouth is up to you. but personal abuse and insults i wont put up with.

Typical British male ... hide behind a woman

You were suggesting might was right ... where did you get that notion from my accusations of Turkey's aggression? Clearly we do not fear its threats (as I suggested we can mount a size-able defence), and it (Turkey) instead, would be foolish to continue with these warship threatening "games".

Calling Turkey over-sized alludes to its expansionist habits, gobbling up the Kurds' territory etc.

And I am still none too clear as to why you threw Russia and Georgia into the equation ....

[turkkan]

18.11.2008, 03.46


ANKARA, November 18 (Itar-Tass) - Russian Minister of Defence Anatoly Serdyukov is to discuss military and military-technical cooperation (MTC) matters in Turkey on Tuesday. During his two-day official visit, he is to hold talks with Turkish Minister of National Defence Mehmet Vecdi Gonul.

An official in the Russian Defence Ministry press service and information department told Itar-Tass earlier, "During the forthcoming talks, the sides are planning to discuss a wide range of matters concerning military and military-technical cooperation between Russia and Turkey, the expansion of Russo-Turkish interaction in the anti-terrorist sphere, as well as a number of other problems of ensuring European security".

The two Ministers are also to touch upon matters aimed at maintaining security and stability in the Black Sea area, specifically interaction between Russia and Turkey in BLACKSEAFOR and Operation Black Sea Harmony formats.

The Russian Defence Minister also intends to call at the Combined Military Academy of Turkey's Armed Forces at Istanbul and visit the Aselsan Company, one of leading enterprises of the Turkish defence industry. The Company engages, in particular, in the designing and production of tracking systems and radars for land machinery, aviation, and ships, and manufactures launchers for Stinger missiles.

[Byron]

The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......

Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.

Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !

[Oracle]

The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......

Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.

Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !

Actaully Byron, I believe GCs and Greeks are united in the desire to free Cyprus from the tyranny of the Turks. When we express differences in how this is to be achieved, it is just our Greek Epithymia .... common desire, but with each having a different approach. Which is fair enough.

So it is not a call for opposition, but just highlighting how deep our common goal is embedded.

[Byron]

The Bonds are stronger than ever.

First the networking with Russia, now Greece ....

During his visit to the Presidential Palace, accompanied by his wife Elsi, Papoulias awarded the Grand Cross of the Saviour to Christofias, saying that “he really deserves the medal for what he is doing for the Republic of Cyprus.”

In return, Christofias awarded the Grand Cross of the Order of Makarios III, Cyprus Republic’ highest award, to the Greek President.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=42751

Something is brewing ......

Interesting comments from Oracle. Taking the discussion further would anti Greece Greek Cypriots please explain why Christofias needs to keep briefing Greece on his negotitations with Turkey. If as you say Greece has nothing to do with Cyprus why the briefing or medal exchanges.

Anti- Greece , Greek Cypriots where are you, still hibernating ? Please come out of your shells , we would love to hear your comments !

Actaully Byron, I believe GCs and Greeks are united in the desire to free Cyprus from the tyranny of the Turks. When we express differences in how this is to be achieved, it is just our Greek Epithymia .... common desire, but with each having a different approach. Which is fair enough.

So it is not a call for opposition, but just highlighting how deep our common goal is embedded.

For the majority of Greek Cypriots , I would agree with your statement. However I am referring in particular to the minority of Greek cypriots on this site who are fervently anti Greece.

It would be interesting to hear whether they are in agreement with the briefing actions of Christofias and before him Papadopulos or not. It seems that when the Cypriot government defends or aligns with Greece the vast majority of them hibernate.

A voi la parola !