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Search for Confederation and declaration of the TRNC -1-

21.11.2008

Niyazi Kizilyurek



It should be kept in mind that with the establishment of the TRNC the main thing to be achieved was the continuation of Denktas Presidency. The Federate State Constitution did not allow him to be elected so that was the main concern rather than independence. The new constitution with the establishment of the TRNC opened that option for him.

Ilter Turkmen

Following the Greek 15 July coup, Turkey, one of the guarantor countries, began intervention preparations. Bulent Ecevit, then Turkish Prime Minister, met the then British Prime Minister Harold Wilson in London and suggested that the two countries act together on the intervention. Ecevit said the following regarding the intervention that the UK did not want to participate in: Our aim is to fulfil the system defined by the guarantee agreement. (Ecmel Barutcu 1999: 60). In Rauf Denktas speech on the morning of 20 July, he said the following: This is not an occupation. It is totally a police action to maintain the independence, unity, and safety once again in Cyprus. It is our duty to help keep the intervention in its focus and prevent bloodshed and bring peace to Cyprus as soon as possible. Victory belongs to the defender of the Republic of Cyprus and of all Cypriots. (Denktas 2000: 388/389).
A ceasefire was agreed two days after 20 July 1974 and the Foreign Ministers of the guarantor countries of the UK, Greece and Turkey met in Geneva and made a common statement. The common statement said that the representatives of the two communities in Cyprus along with the representatives of the guarantor countries would meet in order to hold negotiations on August 8 and the main focus elements in the meetings would be: going back to the constitutional system and re-assigning the position of Vice President according to the 1960 constitution.
Although the common statement mainly referred to returning to the 1960 constitution and the constitutional system, one statement put into the text on the insistence of the Turkish side, bore opposing meanings in itself. The Turkish side insisted that the statement: There are actually 2 autonomous administrations one being the Turkish and the other being the Greek in the Republic of Cyprus; and the statement was added to the common announcement. As the statement conflicts within itself it is obvious that the Turkish side was in favour of a federal solution demanding that the federal solution be based on two separate administrations even back then. As a matter of fact, the statement by then Prime Minister Bulent Ecevit said the following: No one can act as if nothing had changed in Cyprus there have been irreversible changes in Cyprus in the morning of July 20.(Bahcheli: 100).

Denktas presents bizonal, bicommunal federal state

In the second phase of Geneva meetings started with the participation of the representatives of both communities in Cyprus, the Turkish side suggested two different federal solutions based on geographical elements. The one presented to Glafcos Clerides by Rauf Denktas showed the land designated for the Turkish Cypriot Administration was defined as 34% of the island and a bizonal, bicommunal federal state government was planned. The offer presented by the Turkish group to the Greek group was named after then Minister of Foreign Affairs as the Gunes Planâ, and included the multi-canton-federation imposed on the Turkish side by Kissinger. There were 6 cantons in this plan which distributed 34% of land designated for the Turkish Cypriots into 5 big and one small canton.
Interestingly, until yesterday the Turkish side that defended returning back to the Zurich and London Agreements claimed that these agreements did not work and said that there should be fundamental changes made to form a system based on geographical elements. A Federal Government should be instituted resulting in a stepping back from the common statement made at the first Geneva meeting. Rauf Denktas had stated that there could be no going back to the Geneva meetings basis as there could be no turning back to the Constitution of the Republic of Cyprus, adding that this constitution could not protect the Turkish Cypriots resulting in a need for the Republic of Cyprus to be reformed and restructured in an autonomous government in separate locations. (Polivios G. Poliviou 1976:331). Further more he mentioned Bi-national federal state in the solution offer he made to Glafcos Clerides. On 17 August 1974, following the completion of the military intervention, the then Turkish Prime Minister, Bulent Ecevit, stated that the basis for the Federal Cyprus State with two autonomous geographically separate administrations had been actually laid. (Samani 1999: 105).

part 2 be later on to come.

[Nikitas]

You should title this "a study in pezevengliki" then we can all understand what it really means.

[coremax]

Nikitas, according to the last messages you have posted, one can easily pick up the idea that your vocabulary is made up of a few basic words built upon your own selective perception.

Is that true?

[Viewpoint]

Everyone can air their views doesnt mean is represents the majority.

[Oracle]

Is VP coming round to the idea of one man one vote

[repulsewarrior]

...enclaves?

please read my manifesto...

[Nikitas]

"In Rauf Denktas speech on the morning of 20 July, he said the following: This is not an occupation. It is totally a police action to maintain the independence, unity, and safety once again in Cyprus."

Independence, Unity, Safety! This is what the invasion was supposed to bring, according to Denktash. Instead it brought the deth of thousands, the expulsion of 200 000 from the north of Cyprus and diivision of the island.

In view of the sharp contrast between words and deeds, Coremax, I feel entitled to describe this situation as "pezevengliki".

[Big Al]

"In Rauf Denktas speech on the morning of 20 July, he said the following: This is not an occupation. It is totally a police action to maintain the independence, unity, and safety once again in Cyprus."

Independence, Unity, Safety! This is what the invasion was supposed to bring, according to Denktash. Instead it brought the deth of thousands, the expulsion of 200 000 from the north of Cyprus and diivision of the island.

In view of the sharp contrast between words and deeds, Coremax, I feel entitled to describe this situation as "pezevengliki".

interesting concept, dont you think that in the case of cyprus though that Greece and the supporters of enosis were the "pezevenks" who prostituted cyprus off for the sake of greece, then when the going got tough, the pezevenk's got going....

[Nikitas]

Big Al,

The Greeks never pretended to be doing anything for safety, unity and independence. It was the Turks that came in with those promises. The description of the TRNC as the Republic of the Pezevenkis is not mine, it is phrase used by Sener Levent in one of his articles. The day to day events in the north tend to corroborate his views.

It took three years for honest TC farmers to get permission to sell their produce in the south. It takes no time at all for an Anatolian pimp to set up a brothel or a casino in the north. How would you describe this set up?

[zan]

Big Al,

The Greeks never pretended to be doing anything for safety, unity and independence. It was the Turks that came in with those promises. The description of the TRNC as the Republic of the Pezevenkis is not mine, it is phrase used by Sener Levent in one of his articles. The day to day events in the north tend to corroborate his views.

It took three years for honest TC farmers to get permission to sell their produce in the south. It takes no time at all for an Anatolian pimp to set up a brothel or a casino in the north. How would you describe this set up?

Some people ate their shoes when crops failed in Africa.....Needs must. Lift the Embargoes and watch us go.