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[RAFAELLA]

Get Real,

Turkey Does recognise the ROC, but the original ROC - and NOT the GC Controlled ROC that was hijacked after 1974!

I thought you'd know that one!

Yia sas paides!
Elpizo na eiste oloi kala

...en na to po sti Kipriaki dialekto:
Pou ton ivrame tzie touto?! ...fenetai ftihoyn tous polla sti Tourkia.

[paliometoxo]

lol Rafaella pe j esy!! lalei malakies sinexia....

[CBBB]

Yes, utter bollocks.

[Byron]

Turkey has every (legal and Constitutional) right to interfere with the Republic of Cyprus as long as the GCs are (and remain) operating under the original 1960 constitution as they did not dismiss it after the 1974 conflict and declare a new constitution based on let’s say the Greek Cypriot Republic (which they could have done, and can probably still as I have no doubt they’d be recognised by the EU if they should suddenly chose to declare Greek Cypriot Independence of the South of Cyprus!).

Unless the GCs dismiss claim to the original partnership 1960 constitution of the ROC or agree to Solve the Cyprus issue under a Two State resolution with two new Constitutions, Turkey’s Partnership and Sovereign rights similarly to the sovereign rights of the UK with their two bases can not be legally dismissed or ignored. Obviously, I’m no constitutional Lawyer (!), but any ignorance to this reality then I would say the GCs can always expect Turkey to interfere when it sees constitutionally fit! Especially issue concerning Oil Exploration off the Cyprus coast no matter whether it's off Paphos or Karpaz!

If there's no Solution, then there will always be Turkey. The original Cyprus Republic of formed under an agreement involving Turkey, Greece and the UK - Period! Please re-read your own constitution, but not the part that have changed since 1960!!!! Treaty of Alliance, Guarantee, 1959 Zurich agreement, etc, etc....read,...read,...read.

Defacto TURKEY has created an illegal state within the Cyprus Constitution and having done so loses all its rights as a guarantor power.

From a legal point of view to regain any possible rights under the existing constitution, Turkey must restore the original status quo. To do that it must liquidate the TRNC, send back all foreign troops to TURKEY, repatriate all illegal settlers, give back to the GC their homes and obtain the approval from the remaining two guarantor powers.

[Viewpoint]

Whats with you GCs, why do you care so much about Turkey?

If a squatter in your house had the pneumonia wouldn't you hang around with 978 air condition units around him?

Would never get in that position.

And you consider the position you currently find yourself in a successful one?

Compared to 1963 to 1974 totally.

[Oracle]

Whats with you GCs, why do you care so much about Turkey?

If a squatter in your house had the pneumonia wouldn't you hang around with 978 air condition units around him?

Would never get in that position.

And you consider the position you currently find yourself in a successful one?

Compared to 1963 to 1974 totally.

That's because you spent all those years causing unrest as an excuse to steal what you have today ....

[MrH]

Oracle,

What about the case of the FALKLAND ISLANDS?

Did the UK have a right to INVADE and OCCUPY, and then Recognise it as being part of the UNITED KINGDOM.

You can throw all of the LEGAL Jargon at Turkey, but ultimately it is the way the world turns. How do you think the USA was developed? With Flowers and Invitations?

Of Course! With Conflict, Invasion and Conquer - the TRNC is a reality - FACT!

[Get Real!]

Oracle,

What about the case of the FALKLAND ISLANDS?

Did the UK have a right to INVADE and OCCUPY, and then Recognise it as being part of the UNITED KINGDOM.

Give it up fool!

The Falklands were "Overseas UK Territory" BEFORE the Argentineans invaded them. For your sake do more reading and less posting.

Actually, make that NO POSTING.

[Tim Drayton]

Oracle,

What about the case of the FALKLAND ISLANDS?

Did the UK have a right to INVADE and OCCUPY, and then Recognise it as being part of the UNITED KINGDOM.

You can throw all of the LEGAL Jargon at Turkey, but ultimately it is the way the world turns. How do you think the USA was developed? With Flowers and Invitations?

Of Course! With Conflict, Invasion and Conquer - the TRNC is a reality - FACT!

Oh no! Wikipedia gets it wrong again (the Falkland Islands are one of the British Overseas Territories):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_ov ... erritories

"The British Overseas Territories are fourteen territories that are under the sovereignty of the United Kingdom, but which do not form part of the United Kingdom itself."

MrH should inform them forthwith that they have been recognised as part of the UK.

[Byron]

Turkey has every (legal and Constitutional) right to interfere with the Republic of Cyprus as long as the GCs are (and remain) operating under the original 1960 constitution as they did not dismiss it after the 1974 conflict and declare a new constitution based on let’s say the Greek Cypriot Republic (which they could have done, and can probably still as I have no doubt they’d be recognised by the EU if they should suddenly chose to declare Greek Cypriot Independence of the South of Cyprus!).

Unless the GCs dismiss claim to the original partnership 1960 constitution of the ROC or agree to Solve the Cyprus issue under a Two State resolution with two new Constitutions, Turkey’s Partnership and Sovereign rights similarly to the sovereign rights of the UK with their two bases can not be legally dismissed or ignored. Obviously, I’m no constitutional Lawyer (!), but any ignorance to this reality then I would say the GCs can always expect Turkey to interfere when it sees constitutionally fit! Especially issue concerning Oil Exploration off the Cyprus coast no matter whether it's off Paphos or Karpaz!

If there's no Solution, then there will always be Turkey. The original Cyprus Republic of formed under an agreement involving Turkey, Greece and the UK - Period! Please re-read your own constitution, but not the part that have changed since 1960!!!! Treaty of Alliance, Guarantee, 1959 Zurich agreement, etc, etc....read,...read,...read.

Defacto TURKEY has created an illegal state within the Cyprus Constitution and having done so loses all its rights as a guarantor power.

From a legal point of view to regain any possible rights under the existing constitution, Turkey must restore the original status quo. To do that it must liquidate the TRNC, send back all foreign troops to TURKEY, repatriate all illegal settlers, give back to the GC their homes and obtain the approval from the remaining two guarantor powers.

MR H - "silence is an admission of guilt" - Galileo.