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[MrH]

Come on CBBB, although I don't know you personally, you must at least acknowledge that your New Posting called "MrH" is equivalent to a crying baby who can't get his point across.

All I am saying is that besides all of the CONSPIRACY theories in this forum by many of the GCs fighting for "Unification" based on GC domination and TC minority status, we are only DISCUSSING issues.

We are not politicians and have no power to change.

What is real and Practical is that the Island of Cyprus consists of two zones, one the ROC controlled by a GC government only, and the other the TRNC, which is visited by the majority, if not all, the TCs living abroad either once every two years or every year.

You can discredit my postings as much as you like, but its not me who sits in the Greek Cypriot side of the island crying because they can't settle in the North because that would be acknowledging the TRNC!

Stop crying mate, and let's keep up the discussions (ONLY).

[Get Real!]

Look Ayse, I’m going to be very blunt when I tell you that you’re just an immature poster with nothing new, interesting, or challenging to say so what is the point of your existence in the CyProb?

That Turkey has been illegally holding Cypriot territory captive for 35 years is an old story…

That Turkish Cypriots having consumed & trashed the 74 loot are now running around in the occupied territory knickerless like Wombles is another old story…

That the only reason why you and many other Turkish Cypriots have a big mouth because you can hide behind Turkey is yet another old story…

So do everyone a favor and do more reading than writing because your input is the classic f***-all boring everyone shitless!

[MrH]

GR wrote:

Look Ayse, I’m going to be very blunt when I tell you that you’re just an immature poster with nothing new, interesting, or challenging to say so what is the point of your existence in the CyProb?

That Turkey has been illegally holding Cypriot territory captive for 35 years is an old story…

That Turkish Cypriots having consumed & trashed the 74 loot are now running around in the occupied territory knickerless like Wombles is another old story…

That the only reason why you and many other Turkish Cypriots have a big mouth because you can hide behind Turkey is yet another old story…

So do everyone a favor and do more reading than writing because your input is the classic f***-all boring everyone shitless!

Come on GR, what's the point in a Forum if there's no Fun!

Isn't this forum about condeming anything the TCs say against the wishes of the GC ROC, unless you are a liberal Turk and want to live peacefully(!!) with the GC in a dominated GC Republic?

Come on GR. If its meaningful, intelligent writings you want, pop over to ATCA!

There's one thing you should admit to, and that is we TCs do not agree with you GCs, agree with your version of Cyprus's history nor your version of a future Cyprus unification plan. If you want to discuss something worth while, start a posting on an Equal Cyprus plan and I'll submit what we would be willing to give-up in order to reach a "Cypriot" compromise for Cyprus.

And, I was actually considered the most diplomatic one of the ATCA forum members. Don't understand me wrong GR, and no hard feelings mate, but you must realise that we both want two different solutions.

Stop wasting time commenting on the minor aspects of my postings and let's start talking a Solution.

Let's start on Partition, then two state, the Annan Plan, Set of Ideas and perhaps unification based on the realities GR and stop assuming that we all want to live under a Strong Central government with TCs as a minority, no rotating President(s), no two states and no Guarantor status for Turkey, Greece or the United Kingdom. If you want to add value to this forum, don't base it on a load of GCs agreeing with each other only - that's boring!

[Piratis]

All I am saying is that besides all of the CONSPIRACY theories in this forum by many of the GCs fighting for "Unification" based on GC domination and TC minority status, we are only DISCUSSING issues.

And how else could unification be?

The dominant culture and language on this island has been Greek for 1000s of years. If you didn't like to live in an island such as this, then why did you come here?

Of course TCs are a minority, they are 18%, what else could they be? Our Ottoman masters maybe?

We are not living at the time of the Ottoman empire. We are not going to accept for some small minority to be upgraded to the rulers and decision makers of our island or any part of it.

The TCs as a minority can have all their human and minority rights as they are given to all other minorities in all other democratic countries, which are way more than the rights that Fascist countries like Turkey give to their own minorities.

If you believe it is right for ethnic minorities to have the undemocratic power that you demand for yourselves, then start by giving it to the Greek and Kurdish minorities in Turkey, who after all are peoples who existed in Asia Minor long before they were involuntary mixed with the Turks who invaded them.

What is real and Practical is that the Island of Cyprus consists of two zones, one the ROC controlled by a GC government only, and the other the TRNC, which is visited by the majority, if not all, the TCs living abroad either once every two years or every year.

What you describe is what is illegal and criminal so get used to living with the consequences of your criminal actions and the knowledge that it will not last for long.

Based on what you want to rule over land which belongs by 80% to us, which is the homeland of 5 times more GCs than TCs, and where we have a far far longer history? Based on your big guns? Well, your guns can only get you an illegal de facto partition and absolutely nothing more because you have no right to rule the north part of our country.

[Get Real!]

Come on GR. If its meaningful, intelligent writings you want, pop over to ATCA!

[wallace]

GR wrote:

Look Ayse, I’m going to be very blunt when I tell you that you’re just an immature poster with nothing new, interesting, or challenging to say so what is the point of your existence in the CyProb?

That Turkey has been illegally holding Cypriot territory captive for 35 years is an old story…

That Turkish Cypriots having consumed & trashed the 74 loot are now running around in the occupied territory knickerless like Wombles is another old story…

That the only reason why you and many other Turkish Cypriots have a big mouth because you can hide behind Turkey is yet another old story…

So do everyone a favor and do more reading than writing because your input is the classic f***-all boring everyone shitless!

Come on GR, what's the point in a Forum if there's no Fun!

Isn't this forum about condeming anything the TCs say against the wishes of the GC ROC, unless you are a liberal Turk and want to live peacefully(!!) with the GC in a dominated GC Republic?

Come on GR. If its meaningful, intelligent writings you want, pop over to ATCA!

There's one thing you should admit to, and that is we TCs do not agree with you GCs, agree with your version of Cyprus's history nor your version of a future Cyprus unification plan. If you want to discuss something worth while, start a posting on an Equal Cyprus plan and I'll submit what we would be willing to give-up in order to reach a "Cypriot" compromise for Cyprus.

And, I was actually considered the most diplomatic one of the ATCA forum members. Don't understand me wrong GR, and no hard feelings mate, but you must realise that we both want two different solutions.

Stop wasting time commenting on the minor aspects of my postings and let's start talking a Solution.

Let's start on Partition, then two state, the Annan Plan, Set of Ideas and perhaps unification based on the realities GR and stop assuming that we all want to live under a Strong Central government with TCs as a minority, no rotating President(s), no two states and no Guarantor status for Turkey, Greece or the United Kingdom. If you want to add value to this forum, don't base it on a load of GCs agreeing with each other only - that's boring!

Just give up all you have stolen and move to Turkey=fascist state which you love so much......there is your solution!!

[MrH]

William Wallace:

Just give up all you have stolen and move to Turkey=fascist state which you love so much......there is your solution!!

Tell us something original from a narrow-minded GC! I at least expected a simple list of ideas (set of ideas!), but you couldn't manage that.

Fascist State, my good God, what about the treatment of Turks living in Northern Greece! Turkish Cypriots working in the GC Controlled ROC - look at how they are treated (like dogs!).

There's more flags of Greece in the GC Controlled ROC than the flag of the original ROC that was designed by a Turkish Cypriot. IT was the ultra-Greek Cypriot nationalists who forced Britain into agreeing to give Cyprus its independence after the bloody conflict between 1955-60! We're not that blind William Wallace!

The English hate the Greek Cypriots, and you dare to defy them and kick them out! your understanding of true politics is dim - carry on blasting into mid-air, the same you guys did in 1974 when you "Finally" realised that Turkey had arrived to save the island.

[DT.]

William Wallace:

Just give up all you have stolen and move to Turkey=fascist state which you love so much......there is your solution!!

Tell us something original from a narrow-minded GC! I at least expected a simple list of ideas (set of ideas!), but you couldn't manage that.

Fascist State, my good God, what about the treatment of Turks living in Northern Greece! Turkish Cypriots working in the GC Controlled ROC - look at how they are treated (like dogs!).

There's more flags of Greece in the GC Controlled ROC than the flag of the original ROC that was designed by a Turkish Cypriot. IT was the ultra-Greek Cypriot nationalists who forced Britain into agreeing to give Cyprus its independence after the bloody conflict between 1955-60! We're not that blind William Wallace!

The English hate the Greek Cypriots, and you dare to defy them and kick them out! your understanding of true politics is dim - carry on blasting into mid-air, the same you guys did in 1974 when you "Finally" realised that Turkey had arrived to save the island.

1) Was not aware that the turkish minority in Greece was being fired at with rockets from gunships like the Kurds in Turkey. Am also please to see that the Turkish minority is STILL in Greece and growing unlike the Greek community in Turkey which has been long gone.

2) Please provide me with proof regarding the treatment of TC's that work in the govt controlled areas? Where have you seen that they are treated like dogs?

3) The only flags allowed to fly on govt buildings are the Cyprus flag and the EU flag. Please show me how you have come to the decision that there are more Greek flags?

4)

The English hate the Greek Cypriots, and you dare to defy them and kick them out! your understanding of true politics is dim

now you've lost me!

[utu]

Mr. H.

Reading your postings, you show yourself to have a rather more methodical approach to the Cyprus problem. You give rather detailed rationales for supporting partition, But I think you'd have a better reception in the ATCA forum, as you're doing the equivilent of waving a red flag in front of a bull in this forum.

I've tried to steer a middle course. I personally oppose partition mainly because other options exist for reconciliation, but even I've faced my share of criticism over that, so it's really no surprise that your pro-partition stance is getting you a lot of unwelcome attention.

I came to the conclusion that logic does not have a high priority in the debate on this forum. It's mainly emotive, and logic in that environment cuts very little ice. Of course, there have been interesting ideas raised from people (like GR, who proposed Greece ceeding Rhodes to the Turkish Cypriots in exchange for evacuating the North of Cyprus), but nationalistic rhetoric is by and large the norm here.

[Big Al]

GR wrote:

Look Ayse, I’m going to be very blunt when I tell you that you’re just an immature poster with nothing new, interesting, or challenging to say so what is the point of your existence in the CyProb?

That Turkey has been illegally holding Cypriot territory captive for 35 years is an old story…

That Turkish Cypriots having consumed & trashed the 74 loot are now running around in the occupied territory knickerless like Wombles is another old story…

That the only reason why you and many other Turkish Cypriots have a big mouth because you can hide behind Turkey is yet another old story…

So do everyone a favor and do more reading than writing because your input is the classic f***-all boring everyone shitless!

Come on GR, what's the point in a Forum if there's no Fun!

Isn't this forum about condeming anything the TCs say against the wishes of the GC ROC, unless you are a liberal Turk and want to live peacefully(!!) with the GC in a dominated GC Republic?

Come on GR. If its meaningful, intelligent writings you want, pop over to ATCA!

There's one thing you should admit to, and that is we TCs do not agree with you GCs, agree with your version of Cyprus's history nor your version of a future Cyprus unification plan. If you want to discuss something worth while, start a posting on an Equal Cyprus plan and I'll submit what we would be willing to give-up in order to reach a "Cypriot" compromise for Cyprus.

And, I was actually considered the most diplomatic one of the ATCA forum members. Don't understand me wrong GR, and no hard feelings mate, but you must realise that we both want two different solutions.

Stop wasting time commenting on the minor aspects of my postings and let's start talking a Solution.

Let's start on Partition, then two state, the Annan Plan, Set of Ideas and perhaps unification based on the realities GR and stop assuming that we all want to live under a Strong Central government with TCs as a minority, no rotating President(s), no two states and no Guarantor status for Turkey, Greece or the United Kingdom. If you want to add value to this forum, don't base it on a load of GCs agreeing with each other only - that's boring!

Just give up all you have stolen and move to Turkey=fascist state which you love so much......there is your solution!!

Only one person uses Turkey=fascist state, boomers...is that you????
If it is, welcome back you have been missed!!!!!!