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[Oracle]

Turkey's faults are many, although some say only two ...

Yeah, everything they say and everything they do!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7737413.stm

[Floda]

The 'Nationalistic Slogan' of "Love Turkey or leave it" (as stated in the article) gives rise to the question of whether those who HAVE left and set up home in Cyprus (although Turks) might be accused of being 'Scum' by their own nationals.

Appropriate really since that is how they are generally viewed in the rest of the civilized world.

Those that remain in their own country are rapidly losing credibility due to their 'Nationalistic' stance, certainly they are now exposed to a great measure of criticism (except behind the scenes) on the political stage.

Or is the slogan yet another example of Turkish inability to understand the reasons behind their isolation when the question of EU membership is raised ?.

Sadly, my own feelings are a little less optimistic about what the future holds for Cyprus, past performances in many political 'Gatherings' (fondly referred to as discussions by those who attend as representatives) merely bolster pessimism since we are invariably lied to by those who represent us.

God (or Allah) protect us from these men of integrity.

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[BirKibrisli]

Democracy will never take root in Turkey as long as the seige mentality of the Turkish people continues...The fear that the whole world is out to get Turkey is what fuels fanatical nationalism...Those of you who are relentlessly Turkey -bashing here are contributing to this fear and resentment against European style democracy...It is time to think outside the square, people...The Turkish mentality is really rather simple...Attack them and criticise them and they will respond with unity and with an iron fist...Praise them and stroke their egos,and they will give you the shirt off their backs...So the choice is yours...You might be getting your rocks off by trying to degrade Turkey and the Turks,but it will do nothing in reality to advance your/our cause...

[Oracle]

Really Bir ... your evangelical worship of the Turkish psyche speaks volumes for your Turkish-worthiness. I suppose it is your true opinion and not what you feel you MUST say

Either they are like everybody else and so should abide by the same code as everyone else, or indeed they are so "different" as you suggest, and so should be treated differently, as special cases. How privileged in that case, then are we, to have such uniqueness as the pliable Turkish race amongst us! And with you Bir, providing a most illuminating and superior character reference for them.

The Turks are surely the yardstick of our humanity; a barometer of how civilised the rest of us are ..... the more we bend to their whims, the nicer they are. Dare we oppose such righteousness?

[Floda]

Attack them and criticise them and they will respond with unity and with an iron fist...Praise them and stroke their egos,and they will give you the shirt off their backs.

So, do you reckon that if we praised them and complimented them on the manner in which they invaded us, they would give us our country back ?.

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[turkkan]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7743551.stm

Lol, but you have no problem trusting the russians.

[Floda]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7743551.stm

Lol, but you have no problem trusting the russians.

It could be fairly said that the discontent among the Muslim population of the world stems from the mistreatment of them in the recent past.

The foundation of Israel may well have been the spark which ignited the flames which now spread across the world.

The unlawful invasion of Iraq and the lies that were circulated in order to justify it, have exacerbated a problem which was relatively minor prior to such invasion.

Whatever the situation may now be in Russia (and I fail to see the connection with what is being discussed here) I would suggest that the responsibility for the uprisings you have highlighted should be firmly placed on the steps of 'The White House' and 'No 10 Downing Street'.

IMHO.

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[turkkan]

the 'muslim' problem was just an example i happened to pick up from BBC today, that is just a small part of russias human right violations, yet very few of the anti-turk crowd here seem to have any problem with Russia when it comes to their record, but come turkey - oh dear me, they cant be trusted.

Why all the fuss about hrant dink and no mention of Politkovskaya at all? Perhaps you should protest christofias vist to russia as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... skaya.html

[Oracle]

Simple turkkan ....

We (Cypriots) do not trust Turkey because they are the sole enemy who are presently and forcefully occupying Cyprus ....

Other nations may have other examples, but that is our reason for also not trusting them .... and why Turkey is the focus of our discontentment!

[Viewpoint]

Democracy will never take root in Turkey as long as the seige mentality of the Turkish people continues...The fear that the whole world is out to get Turkey is what fuels fanatical nationalism...Those of you who are relentlessly Turkey -bashing here are contributing to this fear and resentment against European style democracy...It is time to think outside the square, people...The Turkish mentality is really rather simple...Attack them and criticise them and they will respond with unity and with an iron fist...Praise them and stroke their egos,and they will give you the shirt off their backs...So the choice is yours...You might be getting your rocks off by trying to degrade Turkey and the Turks,but it will do nothing in reality to advance your/our cause...

Excellent post Bir well said.