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President Sarkozy blasts President Karamanlis over Cyprus!

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Postby Oracle » Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:54 pm

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Bananiot wrote:Very intersting indeed, if you would care to waste one grey cell over it. No wonder it was taken from an ultra nationalist, fascist web site.


The source of the article was from this newspaper.

http://www.paron.gr/v3/

The article was emailed to me by a Cyprus Lobby Group that is active within Australian Political circles.

I searched for a link by pasting the Greek text in www.google.gr and the first site that came was that blog, followed by www.paron.gr.

The mere fact that it was president Sarkozy who suggested that Greece should take a more dogmatic approach, is something that should be taken very seriously. Unless you are suggesting that President Sarkozy is an extremist fascist.

The other point is that France is standing by our side. So we are hardly weak when we have very powerful allies such as France.

Dismiss it at your own peril. But the fact is, these negotiations are hardly proving a success. Turkey is not compromising 1 inch despite our friendly approach. it is time to change tact, and return to past dogmatism. Turkey must be made to realise that her non cooperative stance towards finding a solution to the Cyprus Problem will come at a cost and this cost will be non EU membership.


This is confirmatory news and very welcome. Somebody has to make a stand for the MAIN reason Turkey does not belong in the EU ... its non-recognition of RoC and military occupation of an EU member state.

Paphitis can you expand on "dogmatic"?
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:06 pm

President Karamanlis :? :lol: and who takes comic sarkozy seriously? :x
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:17 pm

Oracle wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Bananiot wrote:Very intersting indeed, if you would care to waste one grey cell over it. No wonder it was taken from an ultra nationalist, fascist web site.


The source of the article was from this newspaper.

http://www.paron.gr/v3/

The article was emailed to me by a Cyprus Lobby Group that is active within Australian Political circles.

I searched for a link by pasting the Greek text in www.google.gr and the first site that came was that blog, followed by www.paron.gr.

The mere fact that it was president Sarkozy who suggested that Greece should take a more dogmatic approach, is something that should be taken very seriously. Unless you are suggesting that President Sarkozy is an extremist fascist.

The other point is that France is standing by our side. So we are hardly weak when we have very powerful allies such as France.

Dismiss it at your own peril. But the fact is, these negotiations are hardly proving a success. Turkey is not compromising 1 inch despite our friendly approach. it is time to change tact, and return to past dogmatism. Turkey must be made to realise that her non cooperative stance towards finding a solution to the Cyprus Problem will come at a cost and this cost will be non EU membership.


This is confirmatory news and very welcome. Somebody has to make a stand for the MAIN reason Turkey does not belong in the EU ... its non-recognition of RoC and military occupation of an EU member state.

Paphitis can you expand on "dogmatic"?


Greece has been showing a bit too much tolerance towards Turkey despite Turkey still occupying Cyprus. President Karamanlis has forged improved bilateral relations with Turkey, and has been supportive towards Turkey's EU aspirations. President Sarkozy, as far as I understand, is criticising Greece for this unproductive Foreign Policy towards Turkey. We have not achieved anything from this stance, and this can be seen from the unacceptable demands that Turkey has made such as loose BBF with Guarantor Treaties, separate FIR, and territorial waters for the Turkish Cypriot Federated State. In other words legalised partition.

France is providing a lot of moral support to Greece, and has basically stated that they will be behind us should we be less tolerant of Turkey's EU aspirations. And whilst Turkey still occupies Cyprus, our stance should be much tougher until Turkey actually cooperates and takes action that would achieve a just and viable solution based on equality of all citizens in Cyprus.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:Greece has been showing a bit too much tolerance towards Turkey despite Turkey still occupying Cyprus.

Keep kissing Mycenaean arse and they'll turn Cyprus into a pie chart.
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:04 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Greece has been showing a bit too much tolerance towards Turkey despite Turkey still occupying Cyprus.

Keep kissing Mycenaean arse and they'll turn Cyprus into a pie chart.


I really do think you have lost the plot. :roll:

Despite Greece's Foreign Policy, however ill conceived it may be, it is no reason to turn our backs on our heritage.
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:06 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Greece has been showing a bit too much tolerance towards Turkey despite Turkey still occupying Cyprus.

Keep kissing Mycenaean arse and they'll turn Cyprus into a pie chart.


I really do think you have lost the plot. :roll:

Despite Greece's Foreign Policy, however ill conceived it may be, it is no reason to turn our backs on our heritage.

Oh!!! :( What's the matter with mommy then? Not coming to rescue your pseudo-Mycenaean sorry arse? :lol:
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Postby waldorf » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:29 pm

With all due respect to one and all, and bearing in mind my political ignorance, if Karamanlis is the President of Greece, where does Karolos Papoulias fit in to the picture :?:
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Postby turkkan » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:31 pm

Should we endlessly punish Turkey for all her transgressions of the last 500 years?


When have you punished us for anything whatsoever?
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Postby DT. » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:37 pm

waldorf wrote:With all due respect to one and all, and bearing in mind my political ignorance, if Karamanlis is the President of Greece, where does Karolos Papoulias fit in to the picture :?:


karamanlis is the PM
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Postby Paphitis » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Greece has been showing a bit too much tolerance towards Turkey despite Turkey still occupying Cyprus.

Keep kissing Mycenaean arse and they'll turn Cyprus into a pie chart.


I really do think you have lost the plot. :roll:

Despite Greece's Foreign Policy, however ill conceived it may be, it is no reason to turn our backs on our heritage.

Oh!!! :( What's the matter with mommy then? Not coming to rescue your pseudo-Mycenaean sorry arse? :lol:


Still no answer to this huh? :lol:

http://www.ancientscripts.com/cypriot.html

Licking your wounds. :lol: And it is Minoan/Mycenaean/Choirokitian arse to you. But from you I will accept "SIR Paphiti". :lol:
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