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Postby EPSILON » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:55 am

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.


The world "Tourkopoulos" shows what I am saying long time now in this forum( T/cs -G/cs had never real good relations).Tourkopoulos was the government appointed agriculture police solving differences between people in the villages and their land (this was the official appointment) But in real life the G/cs were calling them "Tourkopoulos" which means that they were protecting the G/cs working in the fields from the T/cs.

Some people in Cyprtus either are blind or they are trying to convist us that T/cs and G/cs were living peacefully together.....
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 21, 2008 12:29 pm

MrH wrote:I'm just asking here, but, now that the "island of Cyprus" of Cyprus is in the EU and there's complete freedom of movement and settlement, does say the children of an EU settler from Poland also automatically be "A Cypriot"?

When Turkey one day becomes an EU member and EU-Turkey Settlers relocate to Cyprus, do their children then become "Cypriot" and not known as "Settlers"?



In Palestine, a Jewish settler is always a Jewish settler.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:02 pm

MrH wrote:I'm just asking here, but, now that the "island of Cyprus" of Cyprus is in the EU and there's complete freedom of movement and settlement, does say the children of an EU settler from Poland also automatically be "A Cypriot"?

When Turkey one day becomes an EU member and EU-Turkey Settlers relocate to Cyprus, do their children then become "Cypriot" and not known as "Settlers"?


When Turkey will join EU there will be no citizens in the Island of Cyprus even Cyprus itself will not be there.The apocalipses will happen earlier.!!!!!therefore do not worry about this item.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:06 pm

EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.


The world "Tourkopoulos" shows what I am saying long time now in this forum( T/cs -G/cs had never real good relations).Tourkopoulos was the government appointed agriculture police solving differences between people in the villages and their land (this was the official appointment) But in real life the G/cs were calling them "Tourkopoulos" which means that they were protecting the G/cs working in the fields from the T/cs.

Some people in Cyprtus either are blind or they are trying to convist us that T/cs and G/cs were living peacefully together.....



Some people in Cyprus DID live in peace together. :?

Is you glass half empty or half full. It is still a glass with some water in it. :lol:
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:08 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.


The world "Tourkopoulos" shows what I am saying long time now in this forum( T/cs -G/cs had never real good relations).Tourkopoulos was the government appointed agriculture police solving differences between people in the villages and their land (this was the official appointment) But in real life the G/cs were calling them "Tourkopoulos" which means that they were protecting the G/cs working in the fields from the T/cs.

Some people in Cyprtus either are blind or they are trying to convist us that T/cs and G/cs were living peacefully together.....



Some people in Cyprus DID live in peace together. :?

Is you glass half empty or half full. It is still a glass with some water in it. :lol:


All rules/law/situations have exemptions proving same
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:13 pm

EPSILON wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.


The world "Tourkopoulos" shows what I am saying long time now in this forum( T/cs -G/cs had never real good relations).Tourkopoulos was the government appointed agriculture police solving differences between people in the villages and their land (this was the official appointment) But in real life the G/cs were calling them "Tourkopoulos" which means that they were protecting the G/cs working in the fields from the T/cs.

Some people in Cyprtus either are blind or they are trying to convist us that T/cs and G/cs were living peacefully together.....



Some people in Cyprus DID live in peace together. :?

Is you glass half empty or half full. It is still a glass with some water in it. :lol:


All rules/law/situations have exemptions proving same


But ofcourse. 8)

You have your fanatics like TCs will have their own.
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Postby EPSILON » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:53 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
EPSILON wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.


The world "Tourkopoulos" shows what I am saying long time now in this forum( T/cs -G/cs had never real good relations).Tourkopoulos was the government appointed agriculture police solving differences between people in the villages and their land (this was the official appointment) But in real life the G/cs were calling them "Tourkopoulos" which means that they were protecting the G/cs working in the fields from the T/cs.

Some people in Cyprtus either are blind or they are trying to convist us that T/cs and G/cs were living peacefully together.....



Some people in Cyprus DID live in peace together. :?

Is you glass half empty or half full. It is still a glass with some water in it. :lol:


All rules/law/situations have exemptions proving same


But ofcourse. 8)

You have your fanatics like TCs will have their own.


Dear Friend, position is based on actual historical facts and top of all personal experience (before 1974)-Unfortunately the situation is and was like i state.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Nov 21, 2008 3:30 pm

MrH wrote:I'm just asking here, but, now that the "island of Cyprus" of Cyprus is in the EU and there's complete freedom of movement and settlement, does say the children of an EU settler from Poland also automatically be "A Cypriot"?

When Turkey one day becomes an EU member and EU-Turkey Settlers relocate to Cyprus, do their children then become "Cypriot" and not known as "Settlers"?


If Turkey becomes a member of the EU, after a solution to the Cyprus Problem, then you could bet your bottom dollar that the EU will not allow Turkish Citizens the right of residency in other EU countries, mainly due to the fact that the living standards in Turkey are very low. Other EU nations such as France and Germany would not want to be swamped with Turkish migration. Other countries that are currently members of the EU also have these restrictions
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Nov 21, 2008 4:21 pm

"I'm just asking here, but, now that the "island of Cyprus" of Cyprus is in the EU and there's complete freedom of movement and settlement, does say the children of an EU settler from Poland also automatically be "A Cypriot"? "

No, becaue the EU legal order allows member states to regulate the acquisition and granting of nationality.

Being born in Cyprus, and in most EU countries, does not confer nationality. It does not even give the newborn the right of residence in most countries.

Settlers from Turkey are illegal by virtue of the fact the colonisation is a crime under international law.

If there are legal residents from Turkey, their children do not get nationality since there is not patrial link. Cyprus, like most nations applies the blood principle to nationality and not simply a territorial one. I imagine that Turkey also has a blood principle in its nationality law, otherwise it would not have been able to deprive so many minorities of their nationality and residence rights in the 50s and 60s.

It will take many generations for the EU to apply a uniform policy on the matter of nationality. Till then it is a matter for the individual member states. What the EU might do, is to demand that the procedure for naturalisation becomes more streamlined and less costly.
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Postby turkkan » Sat Nov 22, 2008 4:14 pm

Papadopoulos to go to US for further tests

FORMER President Tassos Papadopoulos will be going to the US for further tests after being hospitalised earlier in the week with lower back pains.

Papadopoulos will be going to the Mayo Clinic in Florida within the next few days.

According to media reports yesterday, the former President’s condition was deemed more serious than initially considered and it was decided he needed further tests.

Archbishop Chrysostomos, former Government Spokesman Vasilis Palmas, former Foreign Minister George Lillikas and former Justice Minister Sophocles Sophocleous were among those who visited Papadopoulos in hospital yesterday.

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