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Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:48 pm

MrH wrote:I was only referring to the subject concerning a "Cypriot" homogenius people - which their clearly is not, but more of the state of Cyprus today.

The only people who could possibly classify as "homogenius" are our friends T_C and Humanist so what about them?

I'm not expecting you to agree GR, but you must respect my opinion as that the point of a forum, right?

I don't care about people's opinions unless coming from intelligent and studious individuals like the many we have here on the CF.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:19 pm

MrH wrote:GR,

It's better when you are not being rude - thank you! And, I am only expressing my Turkish Cypriot opinion mate, no hard feelings. It's hard for me to respond to all of your questions as I don't spend much time on my PC as I'd like to.


To the person who said the above...

How do you know that with so much certainty? Did you do a DNA test on everyone?


I was only referring to the subject concerning a "Cypriot" homogenius people - which their clearly is not, but more of the state of Cyprus today.

Okay, their is a "Cypriot" password according to the Original Cyprus Republic and the issuing of passports to Turkish Cypriots, but the situation has obviously changed. This is my whole argument, we are now presented with a different platform, one based on two states, two peoples. I'm not expecting you to agree GR, but you must respect my opinion as that the point of a forum, right?

As for the DNA side of your question, well, i'd like to believe that I originate from the Turks of 1571, but they of course didn't have a women on-board their ship when they landed in Famagusta! So, the mothers of many of the Turks of 1571 many be a mixture. Also, please do not forget the many Turks that migrated from Konya, Kahraman and etc back in the same period (1571).

I think it would be best to keep DNA out of it as you never know, you may actually find that you could have a blood line at some point originating from one of those tough Ottoman soldiers!

DNA is a very dangerous tool if looked into too deeply!

Shall we call it quits?



Hi. Its me again.

Would these 'tough' Ottoman soldiers happen to be 'YeniCheri'? What percentage of them is 'Turkish'. They may have been 'Islamicised' after having a bit chopped off. You are in dangerous territory here. Please do more research. Where is 'Kahraman'. I know of Kahraman Marash. Did you mean 'Karaman'?

Can you please clarify what you meant by 'homogenius'. Does it mean 'all with the same mental aptitude?

Respectfully

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Postby T_C » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
MrH wrote:I was only referring to the subject concerning a "Cypriot" homogenius people - which their clearly is not, but more of the state of Cyprus today.

The only people who could possibly classify as "homogenius" are our friends T_C and Humanist so what about them?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think they meant homogeneous.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:04 pm

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Get Real! wrote:
MrH wrote:I was only referring to the subject concerning a "Cypriot" homogenius people - which their clearly is not, but more of the state of Cyprus today.

The only people who could possibly classify as "homogenius" are our friends T_C and Humanist so what about them?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I think they meant homogeneous.

It goes to show that it takes a homogenius to unravel the mystery! :lol:
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Postby T_C » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:05 pm

:lol: :lol:
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Postby MrH » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:12 am

Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:17 am

MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:22 am

DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.
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Postby DT. » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:31 am

denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Ooops, Sorry T_C, and all,

You're right, I did mean "homogeneous".

Due to my sensitive working environment, I am unfortunately unable to re-read my postings or double check the spelling etc - all watching!!!

I simply write my postings as quickly as possible and hit Submit.

Anyway, regarding the issue of a "homogeneous Cypriot", in my view, does not exist, unlike let's Say "Chinese" (People).

So, the claim of being a Turkish Cypriot or Greek Cypriot only, in my view, appears more valid than just a "Cypriot". Unless you are referring to all Citizens of the former 1960 Republic before the conflict?

But, then, people were regarded as Turks of Cyprus and Greeks of Cyprus.

Am I wrong?

Where in the Original 1960 Agreement is their any reference to Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots?


actually folks back then frequently reffered to each other as Christians and muslims.



In Anglissidhes we were often referred to as 'Tourkopoulos'. Never as Muslim or hristianikos.


Tourkopoulos? Have never heard that term before.
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Postby MrH » Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:54 am

I'm just asking here, but, now that the "island of Cyprus" of Cyprus is in the EU and there's complete freedom of movement and settlement, does say the children of an EU settler from Poland also automatically be "A Cypriot"?

When Turkey one day becomes an EU member and EU-Turkey Settlers relocate to Cyprus, do their children then become "Cypriot" and not known as "Settlers"?
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